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1 posted on 10/05/2019 1:28:16 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 10/05/2019 1:33:07 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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Has any pope ever done this before to members of the faithful--subject them to ridicule?

No doubt there were some popes during the Dark Ages (when the popes were often picked by and from some of the noble families of Rome) or during the Renaissance who had more scandalous lives, but I doubt any earlier pope ridiculed people for believing in what the Church has taught for centuries.

3 posted on 10/05/2019 1:33:51 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ebb tide

Dear Pope Francis. Can you please tell me, in all your divinely inspired wisdom, why and how the world would be so much better if there had never been and was not now a United States?


5 posted on 10/05/2019 1:48:04 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: ebb tide

This is the Anti-Pope.


7 posted on 10/05/2019 1:56:58 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill yo u.)
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To: ebb tide
Eddy Grant - Hello Africa (Live in London '86.)

Mozambique Africa

10 posted on 10/05/2019 2:01:59 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: ebb tide

Francis is morally and intellectually dishonest.

He says (pretends I think) that evangelism if ok, but says proselytism is not. The idea is absurd.

Proselytism: the act of becoming or condition of being a proselyte : conversion

If evangelism does what it is intended to do, then just evangelism alone INVITES proselytism - acceptance of Christ by the non-religious or conversion of a belief to the belief in Christ, AS A SUCCESS OF EVANGELISM.

Evangelism invites proselytism.

Yes, individuals can find Christ without evangelism from others, that’s true. But if evangelism is right and good, and a proselyte (convert) can legitimately find Christ due to evangelism they have recieved, Francis is disonest in claiming proselytism is bad.

All Francis is really trying to do - in my opinion - is to NOT defend Christianity, or even just defend Catholicism, in his demonic idea that all religions are O.K. with G-d, so it really does not matter if Christianity dies, there will always be religion and it will always believe in G-d. If that last sentence was true, the Catholic Church and more importantly Christianity altogether has wasted the last 2000+ years, ‘cause G-d does not care.

I think there is a biblical definition of this pope.


11 posted on 10/05/2019 2:21:05 PM PDT by Wuli
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There is a reason why lightning struck St. Peter’s Cathedral the night this Pope was appointed to the Papacy. He wants to “fundamentally change” the Church the way Obama did the USA. I am a Catholic and this Pope worries me greatly, but we have had bad popes before and survived.


12 posted on 10/05/2019 2:40:53 PM PDT by Doche2X2
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