They are apparently forbidden from discussing (or even reading) those scriptures you posted...In fact, they will ignore most all of the scriptures written specifically to the churches, the Pauline epistles...Odd, eh, for a religion that calls itself the one, true church???
Really! When I’ve asked Roman Catholics questions about Scripture they usually respond with an answer they got from their Catechism not from God’s actual and inspired Word. They aren’t taught from the Bible but must memorize their Catechism. I remember that from my years in Catholic school.