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To: ConservativeMind; Mariner; ebb tide
Youse got Bibles, don'tchas?

Christ gave Peter the keys in Matt 16:19 with language of binding and loosing. This hearkens back to Isaiah 22:20ff.:

"In that day I will summon my servant, Eliakim son of Hilkiah. 21 I will clothe him with your robe and fasten your sash around him and hand your authority over to him. He will be a father to those who live in Jerusalem and to the people of Judah. 22 I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open."
The Pope (=Papa, "father") is Christ's appointed steward. Like Eliakim he wields the authority of the King. When the regent is good and loyal, he is a peg in a firm place, a seat of honor (Isa 22:23-24)

BUT like Shebna, the regent who dares arrogate the power of the keys to advance himself God will cut down and depose (17-19, 25).

The Pope's authority comes from Christ whom he serves. He has none on his own.

66 posted on 09/05/2019 2:30:29 AM PDT by Claud
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To: ConservativeMind; Mariner; ebb tide

Also, an analogy if it helps:

Suppose a parent runs an errand and leaves the oldest “in charge”. What does that mean? It means the kid temporarily has parental authority....but *only* insofar as it is necessary for running the household.

Now suppose the kid in charge doesn’t use that authority for the good of the house, but makes his siblings do all the work and bullies and intimidates them into stuff that they know isn’t right.

Good Catholics right now are the younger siblings praying for Dad to get home.


67 posted on 09/05/2019 2:37:52 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud

Obviously, you have no clue what the ‘key of David’ literally means. It is a joke that any out of Rome holds the ‘key’ of David, if they did, you would know, what that ‘key’ literally describes. It is Written what would come of those that add and/or take away from the Word. Funny thing, Christ commanded to call ‘no’ man ‘father’... If you think the crew that elected this latest joker is Christ appointed, the joke if on you.


71 posted on 09/05/2019 7:22:57 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Claud
Christ gave Peter the keys in Matt 16:19 with language of binding and loosing. This hearkens back to Isaiah 22:20ff.:
"In that day I will summon my servant, Eliakim son of Hilkiah. 21 I will clothe him with your robe and fasten your sash around him and hand your authority over to him. He will be a father to those who live in Jerusalem and to the people of Judah. 22 I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open."
The Pope (=Papa, "father") is Christ's appointed steward. Like Eliakim he wields the authority of the King. When the regent is good and loyal, he is a peg in a firm place, a seat of honor (Isa 22:23-24)

Your religion had to search the scriptures far and wide to come up with a conclusion like that...

Isa 22:20  And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah:
  Isa 22:21  And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah. 

In 'that day'??? What day is that??? Today??? Yesterday???

And he will be the head of the gov't, in Jerusalem??? To the Jews???

Isa 22:5  For it is a day of trouble, and of treading down, and of perplexity by the Lord GOD of hosts in the valley of vision, breaking down the walls, and of crying to the mountains. 
Isa 22:6  And Elam bare the quiver with chariots of men and horsemen, and Kir uncovered the shield. 
Isa 22:7  And it shall come to pass, that thy choicest valleys shall be full of chariots, and the horsemen shall set themselves in array at the gate. 

This scripture has nothing to do with the Catholic religion...You have to count on the biblical ignorance of Catholics to push this past them...

There is nothing in the Old Testament that points to a Catholic or Christian church during the church age...There is nothing that points to the church age...It was a mystery given to and revealed by the Apostle Paul... Nice try tho...

83 posted on 09/07/2019 4:53:03 AM PDT by Iscool
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