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To: RoosterRedux

How can I be mad at a god that doesn’t exist. The “God” that I believe in bears no resemblance to the god depicted in the Bible. That is why I usually refer to it as a creator in an attempt to avoid confusion as when you say god most jump to the conclusion that you mean the god of the Bible.

Also I am not mad at Christians as they have an right to believe as they please as do all the other religions of the world, as long as they don’t interfere with the rights of others. I just believe that they have been misguided.

I usually refer to Deism as a philosophy rather than a religion as rather than an organized pathway to belief it is a personal path guided by my own observation, reason and logic without the dogma required by religions.

Anyway my reason for entering into this discussion was to show that religion was not required to live a moral life, what ever that is. The bases of mine and Deists that I know of our morals is the idea of the Golden Rule. It is said that it was Jesus’s idea, but you can come up with it pretty much with common sense, reason and logic.


48 posted on 08/23/2019 9:54:06 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Okieshooter
How can I be mad at a god that doesn’t exist.

Let's be clear here...and honest.

The fact that you "believe" God doesn't exist has no bearing on the "fact" of whether He exists or not.

Believers and disbelievers alike know, if only at an unconscious level, that their belief may be incorrect...and probably is to some degree.

For believers, we can rest assured that the God we believe in is much greater than we can imagine if He created the universe. Our brains and our experience, being pathetically limited, cannot prepare us for something infinite. We also fully realize, again on some level, that we might be wrong about what we believe altogether. After all, we've all been wrong so many times before. At the very least, Catholics and Methodists and Mormons and Baptists and Quakers can't all be right, can they?

So it comes down to this.

You don't "believe" God exists. In other words, like those who believe in God, you "choose" to live your life based on your "belief."

Bottom line: your belief has no bearing, influence on, or, probably even, a connection with The Truth.

Not to hearken back to Pascal's Wager, but you are angry with the possibility that you might be wrong about the existence of and the character of God.

Whether your like it or not, there is that possibility--that He exists just as Abraham, Moses, and Paul said He did.

That puts you in a rather peculiar position. Angry--it's apparent in your tone of voice--at something you don't believe exists.

As an aside, there are plenty of believers who are secretly angry at God because He isn't exactly who or how they want Him to be.

I would say the same thing to you that I say to myself and believers: "don't be so cocksure in your "beliefs" that you have closed your mind to all possibilities."

There is nothing more pathetic, vain, or desperate than a closed mind. A closed mind ceases to learn and grow and seek.

60 posted on 08/25/2019 2:27:45 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Okieshooter

“you can come up with it pretty much with common sense, reason and logic. “

Really?
Well now as we are beset with a constant barrage of fake news would not you prefer that the purveyors of fake news be guided by the Commandment; “You shall not bear false witness ” ?


73 posted on 10/13/2019 5:26:46 AM PDT by Rock N Jones (1935)
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