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To: boatbums
Will you reveal your true intentions for posting this particular thread from a 2007 article from a Lutheran pastor when the one previously posted a few days ago about the same thing has provoked so much animosity and is still generating attention?

It was an interesting article from a different perspective. Besides, I've been out and have not participated in the other thread you're so concerned about. And now that you've pointed it out to me, I see that you have been actively participating in it, which tends to make me thing you aren't that concerned.

Sowing dissension seems to be a particular delight of a few Roman Catholics. That is sad and NOT honoring to the Lord OR Mary.

Let me get this straight. A Catholic posting an article about their belief is sowing dissension. But non-Catholics who respond negatively, and often with only ridicule, is not sowing dissension. You are certainly a sanctimonious bunch.

Here's a case in point right on this thread Post #8. I haven't seen you publicly lecture this poster about Proverbs 6:19 and sowing discord for their impudent comment. Once you do, maybe we can take you seriously.

I wonder, do you also welcome and respect the pastor's statement...

Sure.

I wonder, do you also welcome and respect the pastor's statements:

    St. Mary is uniquely honored among all the saints of God in Christ, not only by the Church, but first of all by the Lord God Himself.

    What is more, in conceiving and giving birth to the Son of God, she is a type of the Church, the holy mother who surely gives birth to the sons of God in Christ

    When the Church in pious tradition has considered St. Mary to be resurrected and ascended to heaven, already in both body and soul, it is a confession of faith in that which Christ Jesus our Lord has accomplished for us and for all by His victorious Cross, Resurrection and Ascension.

    We believe, teach and confess with the absolute certainty of faith that St. Mary is the Mother of God


39 posted on 08/19/2019 2:26:29 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan
What is more, in conceiving and giving birth to the Son of God, she is a type of the Church, the holy mother who surely gives birth to the sons of God in Christ

You're about 180 degrees out...The church doesn't create the body of Christ...The body of Christ of the Scriptures creates the church...

Christians are the adopted sons of God...We aren't born of any church or anyone's mother, other than our own...We are added to the church as we are saved...

Your religion has come up with so many flowery phrases to dupe the masses...

55 posted on 08/19/2019 6:18:09 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Al Hitan
It was an interesting article from a different perspective. Besides, I've been out and have not participated in the other thread you're so concerned about. And now that you've pointed it out to me, I see that you have been actively participating in it, which tends to make me thing you aren't that concerned.

Of course I participated! That's not the point. If I opened a RF thread about why Mary should not be called the Mother of God, would you ignore it? I have no doubt it would reach a hundred posts within an hour, mostly from outraged Roman Catholics! Now multiply that by a few more saying the same thing within a day of the last one or a few on the same day only with the title changed. Now do you see? My concern - which I previously voiced - is that we have argued over this subject multiple times year after year on the RF and nothing ever seems to be mutually resolved OR learned. So, it's not hard to recognize the true intent of Roman Catholics who post OPEN Religion Forum threads here. The question is why they then whine, complain, mock and scold those who post their comments of disagreement? Are they ignorant of how OPEN threads work? I know they aren't. Ergo, they must either get indulgences for "sticking up for Mary" or they enjoy fanning discord. Maybe it's both? I know it's NOT simply posting about their beliefs.

Please don't pretend to be an innocent bystander. You've tossed plenty of ridicule, sanctimony and negativity bombs at non-Catholics for explaining why certain RC dogmas are rejected.

189 posted on 08/19/2019 6:45:49 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: boatbums
I notice you have avoided answering the second half of my post to you #39.

I answered that I welcomed a respected the pastor's statement you posted. Do you welcome and respect the pastor's statements I asked you about?

214 posted on 08/19/2019 8:50:37 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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