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The Dormition of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God [2007]
Sword-In-Hat Blogspot ^ | 15 August 2007 | Rick Stuckwisch

Posted on 08/18/2019 7:05:12 PM PDT by Al Hitan

Today the Church remembers with thanksgiving the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God. Historically, this day was understood to mark her dormition, or "falling asleep," which was most anciently regarded as her natural death and burial. From early on, however, the Church considered that she who conceived and gave birth to the very God of very God, by His Word and Holy Spirit, was also resurrected and ascended into heaven, in both body and soul, soon after her death. There is no word of Holy Scripture to teach these traditions as doctrine, but we should not be too quick to dismiss them as merely pious devotion. Such piety, at its heart, is a confession of that which is the Church's faith in Christ, the Blessed Virgin Mary's Son, our Savior and our God.

St. Mary is uniquely honored among all the saints of God in Christ, not only by the Church, but first of all by the Lord God Himself. He has had mercy upon her, blessed her with His grace and favor, and chosen her above all other women to bear the almighty and eternal Son of God. She is rightly called, and truly is, the Mother of God; for her own dear Son, the Fruit of her womb, is indeed the one true God, begotten of the Father from all eternity. It is from her flesh and blood that the Lord has taken for Himself a true and natural body, bone of her bone and flesh of her flesh, so that henceforth He is true Man, the perfect second Adam, our elder Brother, our kinsman Redeemer, the promised Seed of the Woman, by whom we are reconciled to God. As the ancient fathers of the Church confessed, God thus became like us, in order that we become like Him, by grace. It is that great salvation that we celebrate in commemorating any of the saints, and in particular the Blessed Virgin Mother of God, St. Mary.

She is an icon of the Church, a living Sacrament of Christ, and a beautiful example of faith, of all the true children of father Abraham. Her body was comprehended by the Word and Spirit of God to become the tangible means by which the Son of God became flesh and was given to us, and not only for us, but for the life of the world. It is His body, conceived and born of St. Mary, that our sins and sorrows did carry. It is a human body, like our own in every way, save without sin, because He was born of this woman (born under the Law to redeem us). Thus do we recognize in her an archetype of the Blessed Sacrament of our Lord's body and blood.

What is more, in conceiving and giving birth to the Son of God, she is a type of the Church, the holy mother who surely gives birth to the sons of God in Christ. We too have been conceived and given new birth by the same Word and Spirit of the same Holy Triune God that overshadowed the Blessed Virgin Mary and knit within her womb the incarnation of the only-begotten Son. Thus are we, like Him, "born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God" (St. John 1:13).

Along with her vocation as the woman by whom the Son of God was given to and for the world, St. Mary also stands with us as a living member of the Church, the Body of Christ. When the Word of the Gospel was announced to her, she received that Word in faith, obtained in her by the mercies of God, and meekly bowed her head in humble trust: "Let it be to me according to Thy Word." Blessed is she who has heard the Word of God and kept it, who treasured it in her heart, who believed that there would surely be a fulfillment of all that God had spoken to her. In all of this, St. Mary is one of us, a faithful disciple of her own dear Son, and among that great cloud of witnesses with which we are surrounded, of that blest communion, fellowship divine.

When the Church in pious tradition has considered St. Mary to be resurrected and ascended to heaven, already in both body and soul, it is a confession of faith in that which Christ Jesus our Lord has accomplished for us and for all by His victorious Cross, Resurrection and Ascension. We may indeed contemplate that she by whom the Lord became like us, should exemplify the way in which we all become like Him, recreated in the glorious Image of the Man from heaven. Of course, we do not rest faith upon the tradition of St. Mary's dormition and assumption into heaven; faith clings to Jesus Christ alone and finds true peace and Sabbath rest forever in Him. But what we envision concering St. Mary, we understand to be the Church's hope precisely in Christ our Lord, our Savior and our God. For we know that He is the Resurrection and the Life, and that she who believes in Him will live even if she dies; yes, and everyone who lives and believes in Him will never die.

We believe, teach and confess with the absolute certainty of faith that St. Mary is the Mother of God; that the almighty and eternal Son of the living God was born of this woman, born under the Law, to redeem us who were under the Law. In celebrating that marvelous incarnation of God the Son, in which He died and rose again for us men and our salvation, we may also celebrate proleptically the resurrection of the body that all His saints share with Him by grace through faith in the Gospel. And in that glorious light, we sing: "O higher than the cherubim, more glorious than the seraphim, lead their praises: 'Alleluia!' Thou bearer of the eternal Word, most gracious magnify the Lord: 'Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!"


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: dormition; lams; lcms; lutheran; mary; protestant
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To: Al Hitan

As a matter of fact that was a response to ALL your threads. Choose one. It doesn’t matter.


101 posted on 08/19/2019 12:23:15 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. I'm. AN ANTI DEMITE)
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To: Iscool
Neither Elizabeth nor anyone else was looking for God to show up in the flesh...

Simeon was:

[25] And behold there was a man in Jerusalem named Simeon, and this man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel; and the Holy Ghost was in him.

[26] And he had received an answer from the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Christ of the Lord. [27] And he came by the Spirit into the temple. And when his parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him according to the custom of the law, [28] He also took him into his arms, and blessed God, and said: [29] Now thou dost dismiss thy servant, O Lord, according to thy word in peace; [30] Because my eyes have seen thy salvation,

[31] Which thou hast prepared before the face of all peoples: [32] A light to the revelation of the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. [33] And his father and mother were wondering at those things which were spoken concerning him. [34] And Simeon blessed them, and said to Mary his mother: Behold this child is set for the fall, and for the resurrection of many in Israel, and for a sign which shall be contradicted; [35] And thy own soul a sword shall pierce, that, out of many hearts, thoughts may be revealed.

And so did Anna:

[38] Now she, at the same hour, coming in, confessed to the Lord; and spoke of him to all that looked for the redemption of Israel.

Luke Chapter 2

102 posted on 08/19/2019 12:34:32 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: metmom
Besides, if Jesus could not have been born sinless because Mary was a sinner, then how could Mary be born sinless if HER parents were sinners?

Simple. It's called the Immaculate Conception.

103 posted on 08/19/2019 12:54:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: smvoice
As a matter of fact that was a response to ALL your thread

Ok, I pick this one.

104 posted on 08/19/2019 2:19:39 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: ebb tide

Do you even understand to what I am referring? LOL


105 posted on 08/19/2019 2:20:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ebb tide

Why?

Is that unreasonable to conclude?


106 posted on 08/19/2019 2:27:19 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Al Hitan

Your choice. They’re all the same tripe. Forming a religious system purely out of reading between the lines. Worthless, because IT DOESN’T EXIST, NONE of it.
And yet, the deception continues, catechism teaching by Vatican conventions by extra biblical nonsense, all wrapped in incense scented shiny paper. Looks GREAT. SMELLS ROTTEN.


107 posted on 08/19/2019 2:27:41 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. I'm. AN ANTI DEMITE)
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To: ebb tide

Okay, ebby, can God act in contradiction to His nature?


108 posted on 08/19/2019 2:28:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Al Hitan

Elizabeth did NOT say *the mother of my God*.

The phrase *mother of God* is not found anywhere in Scripture. It’s a Catholic fabrication because they seened to think that they could improve on the work of the Holy Spirit in inspiring Scripture.

THAT is chutzpah!


109 posted on 08/19/2019 2:28:52 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide; Iscool
Oh, you of little Scripture knowledge.

1 Corinthians 15:46-55 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.

I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.

For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” “O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?”

110 posted on 08/19/2019 2:31:04 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide

Well, then Mary did not need to be sinless because what you all claim God did for Mary being born of sinful parents, He could have just as easily done for Jesus being born of a sinful mother.

And Jesus did not have a sin nature because He did not have a human father through whom the sin nature comes.

And He would not be contaminated with sin through simple human contact. That’s not how one acquires a sin nature.


111 posted on 08/19/2019 2:34:25 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: MHGinTN

Not likely........


112 posted on 08/19/2019 2:34:46 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Al Hitan
Okay, that's about enough from a tool. Where did the ovum and spermatozoon come from to create the embryonic Jesus? You cannot prove any assertion on that level, so don't even try to make a grewater fool of yourself. Did God use an ovum from Mary? If you think He did, where was the spermatozoon origin? What DNA was in the cells in Jesus's body? Did Jesus get His Spirit from DNA?

You Catholic tool, in the Twelve hundreds not one of your religion's leadership knew a single fact about haploid and diploid chromosomes. And I suspect you don't weither!

The embryo age of Jesus may have, could have come from King David directly, without going through all the generations from David to Mary. YOU DO NOT KNOW and neither do I. The fable-filled religion opf Catholicism fabricates all manner of mythos to bring Semiramis back into vogue. How much longer do you think you can help that lie persist?

113 posted on 08/19/2019 2:37:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom
Elizabeth did NOT say *the mother of my God*.

She said "mother of my Lord". As in Lord God.

THAT is chutzpah!

No, what's chutzpah is not recognizing the Lord as God.

114 posted on 08/19/2019 2:39:49 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan
Mary the Mother of Jesus was a surrogate. Stick your incubator where it belongs ... back in the Catholic catacombs of deceit in the Vatican.
115 posted on 08/19/2019 2:40:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Reduced to insults and misspellings. Oh my.


116 posted on 08/19/2019 2:41:39 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: metmom

None of your wild postulations are in your “sola scriptura”.


117 posted on 08/19/2019 2:42:07 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

So how far back does the immaculate go, ebby? For Mary to be sinless her Mother had to be, etc. It is your false Christianity religion of Catholicism which claims Mary was sinless so that Jesus would be born sinless, so how many generations back does your false chrsitiantiy claim the sinless brths?


118 posted on 08/19/2019 2:43:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Follow the thread. Immaculate Conception.


119 posted on 08/19/2019 2:46:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Al Hitan

I have large, old fingers. Focus, Catholic tool. Focus.


120 posted on 08/19/2019 2:47:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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