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Priestly Celibacy: Apostolic Tradition, not a ‘Mere Discipline’
Catholicism.org ^ | July 24, 2019 | Brother André Marie

Posted on 07/25/2019 1:43:44 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide
I did read it.

Your denomination is falling apart.

21 posted on 07/25/2019 2:22:37 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

And this is where the RCC doctrine falls apart once again. They have replaced the Bible with doctrines of men in order to sustain their beliefs. God does not have the final say in the RCC, doctrine and traditions of men take the place of His FINAL WORD. It’s no surprise that each and every false belief they put their trust into comes straight from man and is diametrically opposed to God’s Word.


22 posted on 07/25/2019 2:25:08 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON)
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To: sparklite2

Nope.

Do you consider sacramental marriage till death do us part to be traditional?

If not why do all you protestants condone divorce and remarrying like rabbits? That’s neither traditional nor scriptural.


23 posted on 07/25/2019 2:27:26 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: sparklite2

Isn’t tradition short hand for
“because we’ll always done it”?

Aaargh. Damn Satan. S/B...

Isn’t tradition short hand for
“because that’s how we’ve always done it”?


24 posted on 07/25/2019 2:27:32 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That is right!


25 posted on 07/25/2019 2:27:36 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ebb tide

show me in scripture where you find support for unmarried priests. or most other catholic doctrine e for that matter. i used scripture to refute your point so as usual i’m not sure where you are going with your sola scripture comment. In Timothy it clearly states married clergy are the norm.


26 posted on 07/25/2019 2:28:44 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And the Eastern Rites have married priests still today.


27 posted on 07/25/2019 2:29:29 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: smvoice
Reading a bit more of history shows just how far the RCC departed from scripture on this topic....among others.

The Council of Trent considered the matter and at its twenty-fourth session decreed that marriage after ordination was invalid: "If any one saith, that clerics constituted in sacred orders, or Regulars, who have solemnly professed chastity, are able to contract marriage, and that being contracted it is valid, notwithstanding the ecclesiastical law, or vow; and that the contrary is no thing else than to condemn marriage; and, that all who do not feel that they have the gift of chastity, even though they have made a vow thereof, may contract marriage; let him be anathema: seeing that God refuses not that gift to those who ask for it rightly, neither does He suffer us to be tempted above that which we are able" (canon 9).

It also decreed, concerning the relative dignity of marriage and celibacy: "If any one saith, that the marriage state is to be placed above the state of virginity, or of celibacy, and that it is not better and more blessed to remain in virginity, or in celibacy, than to be united in matrimony; let him be anathema."[73

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IF Rome wants to decree its priests have to be celibate they can do so. But Rome cannot appeal to "tradition" and claim this was always the way.

28 posted on 07/25/2019 2:30:19 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

there are a few narrow biblical grounds for divorce. But as the catholics on this site keep telling us divorce isn’t the problem remarriage is


29 posted on 07/25/2019 2:30:21 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ebb tide

Tradition definition: The handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs, information, etc., from generation to generation, especially by word of mouth or by practice.

IOW, rooted in nothing more than custom. So, slavery should have been left alone? Astrology and alchemy should still be ‘science’?


30 posted on 07/25/2019 2:30:41 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Mom MD

Never ceases to amaze me how little regard some RCs have for the very book they claim to have given everyone.


31 posted on 07/25/2019 2:31:28 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Buckeye McFrog; Biggirl

More posters, Catholic ones, who apparently didn’t even read the article; very disappointing.


32 posted on 07/25/2019 2:31:46 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: sparklite2

Stupid question.

Got something else?


33 posted on 07/25/2019 2:34:14 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ealgeone
Never ceases to amaze me how little regard some RCs have for the very book they claim to have given everyone. So says the guy who is now resourcing non-scriptural texts. Sounds hypocritical to me.
34 posted on 07/25/2019 2:38:25 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And the Eastern Rites have married priests still today.


35 posted on 07/25/2019 2:38:49 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And the Eastern Rites have married priests still today.


36 posted on 07/25/2019 2:38:58 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ebb tide
Dude....just stop. This game is way beyond you.

Run on back to your daily pope bashing caucus threads. You will be safe there.

37 posted on 07/25/2019 2:39:31 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

And a Catholic poster who is complaining for nothing.


38 posted on 07/25/2019 2:42:53 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ealgeone

Acts 17:10,11 tells us all we need to know here.

“And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas, by night unto Berea; who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.”
“THESE were more noble than those at Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and SEARCHED the SCRIPTURES daily, whether THOSE THINGS WERE SO.”
If the RCC had been the “noble” ones like Paul pointed out, doctrines and traditions of men would have NEVER been accepted. Because they are DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO SCRIPTURE.


39 posted on 07/25/2019 2:46:15 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON)
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To: ealgeone
No it's not a bogus argument.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. It's also not a rebuttal.

40 posted on 07/25/2019 2:50:57 PM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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