Posted on 07/15/2019 9:23:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Those with no particular religious affiliation, often called "nones," continue to grow in number in the United States, new data show.
Eastern Illinois University political science professor Ryan Burge explains in an essay for Religion in Public that while much of the media often frames the statistics that nones now constitute the largest religious group in the U.S., the reality is much more complicated. Nevertheless, the trend is clear.
Self-identified nones made up 22.2% of Americans in 2008, Burge noted; today they comprise 29.5%.
The aggregated data was taken from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study which has been conducted since 2006, and has a sample size that is 10 to 20 times the size of the General Social Survey, an older source of data that has regularly collected and maintained a record of concerns, experiences, attitudes, and practices of U.S. citizens since 1972.
When examined state-by-state, the CCES numbers tell a more interesting story.
From 2008–2018, Catholics saw the greatest decline as a share of the population in 24 states, though they increased their share of the population in Washington, D.C.
Similarly, evangelicals saw their numbers drop in the same way in 11 states. Mainline churches decreased by the greatest percentage in eight states.
In Arizona, Florida and Maryland, black Protestants declined the most. In Utah, Jews saw the greatest decrease in 10 years.
South Dakota was the lone state where those with no religion saw a decline, 0.3%, in its share of the total population.
South Dakota is also one of three states, along with Wyoming and Alaska, where the evangelical percentage of the population has grown from 2008–2018. The only state where mainline churches grew in the past 10 years was Vermont.
In 46 states and in Washington, D.C., the nones have grown the most.
In Hawaii, the nones grew by 22.9% in 10 years. In 22 states, nones increased by double-digit percentages.
The states where the nones grew the slowest, by 5.3% or less, were Arkansas, Kansas and Florida.
When GGS and CCES figures are examined together, the trajectory is unmistakable that Americans are moving away from religious affiliation.
In the past 25 years, from 1993–2018, evangelicals declined nationwide by 7.4%, according to the GSS measurements. Between 2008 and 2018, the nones have risen by nearly the same amount, 7.3%, according to CCES data. Using GSS data, the shift in nones is just over a half of 1 percentage point per year since 1993.
"The one question that I am often asked that I can’t answer is: how large will the nones get? I think that they will plateau," Burge observed.
"I don’t know if that’s in five years or 15 years, but even if they stopped growing this year, it will still be the most dramatic unbroken streak of growth we have seen in the last five decades. And the United States will be altered forever, both socially and politically, because of it."
Where two or more are gathered in my name, there I am also.
I count three.
I have nothing against church, in fact I have been to a few
churches with sound doctrine who do not equated them selves
with religion.
The ones I support are those who do not collect tithes and they
do not spend an hour twisting a scripture around to convince you
that it does not say what they know you think it says.
The churches set up after the rule of Constantine are a far cry
from the ones that Peter and the other apostles set up, the believers
Who wanted to become part of the church sold what they had and laid
the proceeds at the apostles feet.
These people became the church, they gave of them selves twenty four
hours a day, there were also many believers who did not join the
church.
I have no doubt that during the holy Roman empire there were many kings
and pay who were above board and also Durning the Reformation there were
sincere people involved but also have no doubt that the real goal became
power.
God has used these religious organizations to spread his gospel to the
world at their will or against it, a little truth here and a little there.
The seventh king was the holy Roman empire who lost hold of her empire in
the mid 1600s but although this seventh beast was wounded by the sword it
did live to become the great whore that sitteth on many waters, the Catholic
church is every where, all of the protestant religions came from the
Catholics.
In rev18:4 God tells his people to come out of her and be not partakers
of her sins.
What would God be telling his people to come out of?, the only place God would
have to tell his people to come out of would be some place where they mistakingly
thought they should be but should not be.
What good things did Jesus say about religion?oh ????????, what bad things did
Jesus say about religion?
There is verse after verse after which Jesus told the religious leaders they were the sons of
their father the devil, it did not change Satan is the ruler of this world and
religion is of this world.
God’s people will come out of these religious systems.
Where two or more are gathered in my name there I am also.
I count three.
I count three, sorry that was
Meant for some one else.
What the heck does this article have to do with Catholics per say. The study was primarily talking about Protestant evangelical and mainline faith traditions?
No,if you read it, the article was about religious affiliation in the USA, and thus the scope includes NONES, black Protestants, Jews, Mainline churches, Catholics and evangelicals. But the Christian Post.com being a mainly evangelical voice (the Christian Post is a Global Partner of the World Evangelical Alliance and a Member of the Evangelical Press Association, and its executive editor is Richard Land, president of Southern Evangelical Seminary) then its headline highlights what would be of interest to its readers.
Including,
In 46 states and in Washington, D.C., the nones have grown the most... In the past 25 years, from 1993–2018, evangelicals declined nationwide by 7.4%, according to the GSS measurements. Between 2008 and 2018, the nones have risen by nearly the same amount, 7.3%, according to CCES data. Using GSS data, the shift in nones is just over a half of 1 percentage point per year since 1993.
But i understand that as a RC you might not like to see reported that Catholics increased their share of the population in Washington, D.C., a locality that has the 4th highest rate of abortion, and in fiscal 2015 , the District of Columbia sent the fewest people into the military, compared with the 50 states, but that is overall consistent with the relationship btwn liberalism and Catholics.
The correlation btwn liberalism and the % of Catholics in areas of the US (in contrast to evangelicals) began long before PJP2, and which some TradCaths attack as being liberal.
Confirms what Hebrews 10:25-26 to not forget the fellowship.
Revelation taken out of context.
Nones??? What a stupid representation...
Well why don’t you just put it in it’s place then?.
Explain then what the correct context is...
It does not surprise me that we are seeing a decline since few believe they have sinned against God including many in the churches today.
Means it’s best to use a good Bible commentary.
The article has nothing to do with Catholics alone. So why turn it into that. That was the point of what I was raising. You may continue on with your internet ad hoc bible thumping apologetic with someone else. I have told you over and over and over I do not want to discuss anything substantive with you as you. Your last paragraph explains your mentality and mindset regarding D.C. The article said nothing about abortion rates in D.C. nor who the people who are getting abortions in terms of ethnicity or religion yet somehow the all knowing you turned this into a Catholic issue. One thing about you, you are quite easy to predict. If I ran a Regression model on your behavior, I would get a R-squared of 100%
One thing about you, you are quite easy to predict. If I ran a Regression model on your behavior, I would get a R-squared of 100%
"Catholics alone" being the point? Just how did the (apparently ) Catholic) poster make it that by commenting " Flocking to where Donald Wuerl would let you take Communion no matter how many abortions you voted for?"
Rather than the poster making the article to do with Catholics alone, it was you who did so, with the typical knee-jerk reaction Catholics so often display when faced with anything negative about their church. One thing about such is that they are quite easy to predict. If I ran a Regression model on their behavior, I would get a R-squared of 100%
You may continue on with your internet ad hoc bible thumping apologetic with someone else. I have told you over and over and over I do not want to discuss anything substantive with you as you
Which is wise, since aside from recourse to ad hominems in lieu of a compelling argument, substantive debate will show that the RCC is a false church, with her distinctive Catholic teachings that are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (including how they understood the OT and gospels), which is Scripture, especially Acts thru Revelation.
. Your last paragraph explains your mentality and mindset regarding D.C. The article said nothing about abortion rates in D.C. nor who the people who are getting abortions in terms of ethnicity or religion yet somehow the all knowing you turned this into a Catholic issue.
My mentality and mindset regarding D.C.? That it is very liberal and overall consistent with the relationship btwn liberalism and Catholics? That Catholics overall are far more liberal than evangelicals, and mainline Prots? No, i am not all-knowing, but we have abundant testimony .
As far as turning this into a Catholic issue, I was following your lead, since it was you who protested a remark, likely due to presuming only a Prot who dare to say something disparaging about Catholics.
As regards "the article said nothing about abortion rates," this is a forum CT, which means people post thoughts relevant to the article, and which the poster whom you attacked did. As can I.
And as regarding the link I made,
In 2014, the highest percentage of pregnancies were aborted in the District of Columbia (38%), New York (33%), and New Jersey (30%). - https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/
Black non-Hispanic women have the highest abortion ratio. - https://www.bound4life.com/statistics
But only 10% of blacks are Catholic in Washington, D.C. - https://prri.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/PRRI-Catholic-Race-DC-NYC-Philly.jpg
And Catholics are just as likely to get an abortion as other U.S. women. - https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/01/24/catholics-are-just-likely-get-abortion-other-us-women-why (More Prots get abortions since there are more, but it is the 5 per person that matters).
Catholics and Orthodox constitute 21% of the whole Washington, DC metro area, vs. 14% evangelicals, and with Prots overall being the Christian majority, while the Unaffiliated/Nothing in particular/Atheists/Agnostics and Non-Christian and other Faiths make up 36%. - https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/metro-area/washington-dc-metro-area/
Thus while my statement is warranted that "I understand that as a RC you might not like to see reported that Catholics increased their share of the population in Washington, D.C.." yet the correlation btwn liberalism and the % of Catholics in areas of the US is not exclusive to them .
Give it a rest
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