Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.
Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?
No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.
Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.
Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.
Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17
She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.
We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".
Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.
I posted from the CCC didn’t I?
And then you told me that it didn’t mean what it actually said.
Why not complain about Rome’s false teaching if they’re doing it wrong?
But, ping to people here, these people were taught one thing that you now claim isn’t true.
How is anyone supposed to know what Rome teaches if it’s so self contradictory?
Yes you did (bolding and underlining is mine):
It's unfortunate, but your actual words stick to you.
I pointed to the actual photographs taken at Fatima that big day.
Here's another purported "actual photograph"
You want...
Let me take this opportunity to remind you: mind reading is against the forum rules. You have no idea what I "want".
In fact, you have now created a UFO conspiracy perspective, as if the actual photographs do not exist and some fable regarding a flying disc is the reality. You are starving your soul to spiritual death by rejecting plain truth in order to fasbricate a 'conspiracy'/ That tactic, BTW, was foisted by the CIA regarding UFO sightings, in rder to taint sightings as 'theories rather than reality. The Disc photographed in more than one frame at Fatima is real history. Swallow your conspiracy with your steak, and try not to choke on Truth since it is so distasteful to your Catholic Pallet.
I posted from the CCC didn’t I?
Yes, that's correct, you did. I apologize. But I also posted from the CCC in response to provide the part you left out.
And then you told me that it didn’t mean what it actually said.
No, I just posted the rest of it to provide the complete teaching.
Why not complain about Rome’s false teaching if they’re doing it wrong?
You're free to complain about anything on FR whether it's right or wrong.
How is anyone supposed to know what Rome teaches if it’s so self contradictory?
Yes, I suppose the teachings of the Church can seem self-contradictory if someone doesn't understand. That is one of the functions of the Church - to teach and explain.
Hey, another link. Good.
Too bad that’s Russian Orthodox the link is referring to, not Eastern Orthodox, and those two are not in communion with each other.
Try again?
Oh, now it's sarcasm. Your post didn't indicate that. But it's convenient for you to claim it now.
You swallow the lies so eagerly...
None have been swallowed. And I note that you continue to make personal attacks.
You are starving your soul...
Tsk, tsk. Again with the mind reading.
try not to choke on Truth since it is so distasteful to your Catholic Pallet.
Tsk, tsk. Again with the mind reading. What's a "Catholic Pallet"?
Don't sound so desperate.
So I should believe you and only YOU on what Catholicism teaches, and none of the other witnesses and teachers who contradict your claims?
How arrogant.
very calm placemarker
Now you're being silly. What was posted is belief common amongst all the Orthodox Churches, and was not specific to only the Russian Orthodox.
Absolutely not. You should confirm through different sources whatever someone tells you.
and none of the other witnesses and teachers who contradict your claims?
Which contradictions?
How arrogant
Only if you believe your presumption.
Don’t take the mark when it is commanded to you. Think and say what you will about or at me, but just remember someone cautioned you to NOT TAKE THE MARK. Your eternal destiny is at stake then.
You poor of spirit thing, just don’t take the mark. You cannot argue the command away and taek the amrk then. Don’t accept the mark when it is commanded to you.
And to think I just had the Protestant faction telling me yesterday that being in communion doesn't matter. Get your stories straight.
Care to post in English?
BTW, the entire fable surrounding Fatima is a Catholic hoax. Would the Mother of Jesus appeared to children in Portugal wearing a skirt that came only to the knees? Read the accounts and learn the fable particulars.
‘take’ and ‘mark’ ... LOL
Who am I to tell the Mother of God what she can where or not?
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