Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.
Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?
No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.
Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.
Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.
Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17
She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.
We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".
Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.
“I understand it quite well. I was pointing out your inconsistency regarding Catholics. On one hand they are evil, on tbe other hand, the bible they approved and kept intact is supreme. How can that make sense”
I don’t own or particularly like a donkey, but God used Balaam’s ass.”, and God spoke through that beast to save His people.
I would have hated the Babylonian Captivity, but God used it to judge and prepare His people.
I don’t like giant man-eating fish, but God used one to reroute a wayward prophet to save a nation.
I don’t like the brutality of the cross, but God could see it to pay for all sin.
“some of the official doctrine of the Roman church is (evil).”
Any “religion” whose doctrine is extra-Biblical is a cult. That’s basically the defining attribute of a cult. Stick to the Bible; everything else is stuff made up by some guys.
Really? I don't think I've ever talked about it. How do you come to that conclusion?
Did she arrive in tht UFO Disc that was witnessed and reported and PHOTOGRAPHED that day 70,000 people saw a bright Disc buzz the crowd?
I don't know how she arrived. But if you want to dabble on the fringes of Christianity and are interested in UFOs and other such conspiracies, there's a former poster named Quix who you should get to know. Or are you Quix reincarnated?
Uh-huh.
So you’re telling me that Paul gave some super word of mouth traditions that completely invert what he and the other Apostles actually wrote?
Pull the other one; it’s got bells on.
Yep, uh-huh. You still haven't answered. Do you believe as do the Orthodox regarding faith and works:
"A person is justified by works and not by faith alone”
I didn't tell you anything. I just quoted St. Paul. Believe him or not.
What are those traditions Paul taught them? Hint...context is your friend in trying to answer this question.
And still no answer to the question.
This is the idiotic claim of the Catholic Church. How many times in scripture does it tell us, "It is written...". Our Lord Jesus himself picked up a scroll and READ from Isaiah.
So the Catholics tell us everything was handed down orally and those spritures that were handed down orally tells us they were written. It would almost be laughable if it wasn't so sad.
He doesn't list them, but it doesn't matter. The point is he is saying their teachings are by word of mouth or by letter
Hint...context is your friend in trying to answer this question.
Your context? No thanks.
What question?
That’s rich coming from a Catholic.
Hey, Elsie!
How’s that statue of Mary you own working out?
Pray to her recently, or light any candles to her?
That’s rich coming from a Catholic.
Hey, Elsie!
How’s that statue of Mary you own working out?
Pray to her recently, or light any candles to her?
So rich you posted it twice.
I have no idea what I’m talking about.
Who am I? Why am I here?
I’m a freakin moron.
I think I have dementia.
Once you figure it out, feel free to come back and post.
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