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Jesus is the Life Preserver. Mary is the Rope He Chose To Reel Us In.
The Most Ancient Tradition | 06-16-2019 | Charles O'Connell

Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

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To: northislander

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Semiramis!


201 posted on 06/16/2019 10:38:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: northislander
My catechism says Mary is a co-mediatrix...

Your catechism is wrong because Scripture alludes to no such thing.

202 posted on 06/16/2019 10:39:31 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: nobamanomore; CommerceComet
I guess you didn’t read the part about “Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

So what are those traditions to which Paul was referring?

How do you know they were from Paul?

How do you know they were passed down faithfully and without corruption?

Please cited your sources for verification purposes.

203 posted on 06/16/2019 10:42:03 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; nobamanomore; CommerceComet

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>> “So what are those traditions to which Paul was referring?” <<

Clearly, the “Appointed Times.”
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204 posted on 06/16/2019 10:44:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Church does not teach that Mary is the Mother of God the Father or God the Holy Spirit.

Hey, YOU ALL are the ones insisting that Mary is *mother of God*. Period.

If she's the *mother of God* because she's the mother of Jesus and Jesus is God therefore, she's the mother of God (Catholic "logic" for lack of a better term) then if the Father and the Holy Spirit are also god, then she is their mother also.

Congratulations, you have joined Mormonism in believing in a god who is a created being.

205 posted on 06/16/2019 10:45:56 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Your catechism is wrong because Scripture alludes to no such thing.

Here's a free tip: sola scriptura is not in scripture.

206 posted on 06/16/2019 10:47:44 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: nobamanomore; aMorePerfectUnion
They can be found in the catechism of the Catholic Church. Google it. You’re welcome

If you won't provide the information requested, it doesn't exist.

Catholics are the ones who believe it. We are under no obligation to prove something we don't believe.

If you can't be bothered to support your claims, then I don't see why anyone should give it any serious consideration.

207 posted on 06/16/2019 10:49:09 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

The vast majority of catholic laity think ‘immaculate conception’ refers to Jesus’ virgin birth...sad and pathetic come to mind


208 posted on 06/16/2019 10:49:12 PM PDT by northislander
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To: nobamanomore; aMorePerfectUnion

IOW, it doesn’t exist.


209 posted on 06/16/2019 10:50:23 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide; Mom MD
So Jesus Christ is not God, Himself? He's just a mediator? Interesting.

Your argument is with God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.

1 Timothy 2:5-6 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.

210 posted on 06/16/2019 10:52:36 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: editor-surveyor

Party Pooper!


211 posted on 06/16/2019 10:57:13 PM PDT by northislander
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To: ebb tide

Show us where Mary is named by name in the OT.


212 posted on 06/16/2019 10:58:40 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide

Can you add?

120 disciples.

11 apostles.

1 Mary.

Do the math.


213 posted on 06/16/2019 10:59:29 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: northislander
The vast majority of catholic laity think ‘immaculate conception’ refers to Jesus’ virgin birth...sad and pathetic come to mind

So much for all that criticism of YOPIOS as being invalid because all the *interpretations* disagree.

If they were Catholic, they'd all agree on every last point of doctrine, right?

Like about the immaculate conception.

Or whether Vatican 2 is binding on Catholics.

Or whether Francis is a legitimate pope and is required to be submitted to.

214 posted on 06/16/2019 11:05:27 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: northislander

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Every party has a pooper thats why we invited you!

Party Pooper!

Party pooper.


215 posted on 06/17/2019 12:57:24 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: northislander

“1. Mary’s triune role as co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix, Advocatrix is a reflection of the Three Persons of the Holy TrinitY”

Heresy and not found in Scripture.

Just part of making Mary into an idol and demigoddess.


216 posted on 06/17/2019 2:59:32 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; CharlesOConnell; daniel1212
You are right. I found this a hoot.

...Jesus' first disciple was his mother,

Rather stretching the truth. Mary (and Jesus' half brothers and sisters) thought Jesus was crazy.

That doesn't means Mary didn't remember the miracles surrounding the birth. It only means that, like the disciples on many occasions, Mary wasn't able to process the events. She treasured up these things in her heart but she didn't understand how they all fit together.

All it is, is justification for idolatry.

217 posted on 06/17/2019 3:22:48 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: northislander
I like Untier of Knots best!
218 posted on 06/17/2019 3:35:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: northislander

Then so are Curly, Larry and Moe.


219 posted on 06/17/2019 3:35:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

Um....No.

The same room where the last supper took place.


220 posted on 06/17/2019 3:36:24 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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