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To: SeekAndFind

“What you seem to be saying is this — No Jewish born person who accepts Jesus as the Messiah is truly Jewish.”

No clue how you got that out of what I posted.

They can be Jewish or they can be gentile pretending to be Jewish. The result is the same.

The long post above by another poster broke it out well.


74 posted on 06/11/2019 1:59:21 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: MeanWestTexan

What is the difference between Jews and Gentiles?
Difference Between Jews and Gentiles. Generally speaking Jews are those who follow Judaism, while all the others, non-Jewish people, are known as Gentiles. The descendents of the patriarch Israel are known as Jews, while the Gentiles are those who worshipped Jehovah according to the patriarchal system.
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Strange both Jews and Christians worship Yahweh (Jehovah, El, Eloheim, Jehovah).

How the world has changed.

In the early days of “The Way”, later known as Christianity. The argument then was that a person could not be a “Christian” without becoming a “Jew” first. Now the argument is that a person cannot be a “Jew” if a “Christian”.

When Paul (Saul) came to the Temple as an observant “Jewish Rabbi” (he had shaved his head and made a vow) the crowd that condemned him was made up of both Messianic Jews and Jews who did not accept the Messiahship of Yeshua. Both called for his arrest.

Was he any less Jewish? The body of believers known as “Followers of The Way” were observant Jews, except that they believed Yeshua was Messiah. Did this protect them from Roman rule? Did this make them any less Jewish? Does believing that the Messiah has come, or is coming make anyone any less Jewish?

It was a Roman Caesar who declared Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire 380 AD, after centuries of persecution. It was a Roman Caesar who dictated that Christians could no longer celebrate Passover, or the other Feast Days of Judaism, and must worship on Sunday as the day of resurrection. It was a paganized church that molded Christianity into its current form.

The current embodiment of Judaism evolved following the destruction of the Second Temple, and seems to revolve around the Talmud, rather than Torah, except in the case of Orthodox Judaism.

What both sides forget is that for Biblical Prophecy to be fulfilled, history had to follow the course that has brought us to the current reestablishment of Israel as a nation, and the coming of Messiah. In Jewish eyes the first coming. In Christian eyes the second.

Saul (Paul) cautioned Christians that they were grafted into the tree of Abraham. They are a branch, not rootstock. They could be plucked out just as easily as some of the branches of that tree has been done in the past.

He made it clear that “Gentiles” could be saved through Messiah, but that once saved, both Jews and Christians worship the same Creator, through the same Spirit. He also made it clear that once the Messiah made his appearance, and been acknowledge by both Jew and christians, that all things including the Messiah’s authority are returned to Yahweh.

It is through Judaism alongside Christianity, that the entire world has been blessed. For it was through the sacrifice of a Jewish Messiah that there are billions of believers in the God of Abraham, Issaic, and Jacob, alongside those who follow Judaism.

Unfortunately throughout history those is power in both camps have failed to put Biblical principles into practice, and have used their authority to persecute.

That’s what the article was about.

The two camps, Judaism and Christianity, look at each other as being in error. At different times through history each had the power to persecute the other. Just as within Christianity there are denominational differences, also within Judaism there are denominations (Reconstructionist, Orthodox, Reform, and Conservative).

All the different groups have different interpretations of what is truth and promote their version of truth, while waiting for the truth to be revealed.

Unfortunately there are those who use would rather accentuate our differences to bring division. The article is about that division.

We should celebrate the return of our Jewish brethren to Israel and its fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. We should strengthen our bonds to stand together, and reject divisive arguments about what is and is not a believer in Yehovah. Each group should pray for the truth to be fulfilled and pray for each other.


192 posted on 06/12/2019 11:24:53 AM PDT by Yulee
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