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To: DesertRhino

“In the part of Texas I came from...”

If you put every person into Texas, each would have about 1,000 sq. feet of land. (And the rest of the world would, of course, be empty.)

Some guy wrote a book about freedom and capitalism. As freedom and capitalism has expanded over the last 50 years, the world poverty rate has gone from something like 80% living in poverty to 10% living in poverty.

We don’t need fewer people - we need more freedom.


26 posted on 06/08/2019 1:09:25 AM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: 21twelve

Some guy wrote a book about freedom and capitalism. As freedom and capitalism has expanded over the last 50 years, the world poverty rate has gone from something like 80% living in poverty to 10% living in poverty.


Thomas Sowell?

But onto a different subject. I believe it would be possible to have a US that used no fossil fuels. This would be a country that would no longer be the worlds superpower (either a bonus or the goal of those who advocate for this), and the poverty rate would be much higher. This would require an economy where there would be a GDP per person similar to that of the 1850s in the US, or Eastern Europe in the 1920s

Understanding that there is no way to significantly expand electricity production beyond current hydropower production, transport would be wood fired boilers and sails for longer transport, animal hauled for shorter ranges. I am assuming that there would still be a way to produce lubricants and pnumatic tires.

Needless to say there would be a massive increase in poverty, as most of the population would have to become rural poor. Farming would have to revert back to semi-subsistance for the bulk of production. This would be farms that use most of the production simply to support themselves, 50% or more of the land would be for feeding the draft animals, most of the rest would be feeding and clothing the farm family.

You could still have rail roads and trucks, but capacities would be greatly reduced from today as they would need to be wood fired steam engines. All the water fuel and boiler would take up a large fraction of the capacity for a truck (along with for practical purposes tying them to a route with guaranteed water supplies). Trains would be limited or practical purposes to the size which a hand stoked cordwood fire firebox could produce enough steam to pull.

Surprise surprise for the greenies, electricity would be mostly used for industry in the cities.


27 posted on 06/08/2019 3:39:52 AM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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