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To: Hieronymus

Apparently you do not take issue with the assertion that Francis is in fact teaching schism or heresy in his (presumed) official capacity as Pope.

Can you, therefor, demonstrate where in official Church teaching it may be found that it is possible for a true Pope to do so (that is, tempt believers to doubt)?!

Or is it, rather, an un-Catholic position to state that the present Pope, from his teaching authority, is tempting the faithful to sin?


6 posted on 05/23/2019 12:16:37 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (...unless you shall do penance, you shall all likewise perish. - Jesus (Luke 13:3))
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To: Repent and Believe

He is not using the fullness of his authority. If he had a very clearly articulated position in the main part of an encyclical presented as something to be held by all Catholics everywhere from hence forth, I, as a theologian, would have a serious problem.

As it stands, I know kind of how Chelsea Clinton might have felt when she was told that God wants her to honour her father.

He should quit trying to impress reporters on airlines and anyone who will give weight to whatever he happens to throw out of his mouth even when it clearly hasn’t been thought out.

The Pope is tempting the faithful to sin in many ways. Often when processing what he is saying as he muddles his way through teaching without employing the fullness of his authority or many portions of revelation and tradition, I personally am tempted to break the second (or perhaps by your counting the third) commandment. I may have done so once or twice—I am nearly certain that I have used the term racca, or its equivalent.

I do think there is adequate precedent for telling the Pope “Get behind me Satan,” so maybe I should stick with that. If it’s good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for Texas. (credit to the theological acumen of Gov. Hogg).

That said, I now understand Henry II with more sympathy, though in the end, unless one in is an appropriate position of authority to do so, I must advise that the Medici solution is morally out of bounds, however tempting it might seem. In God’s good time—in the mean time better the devil you know (or Satan, to use Our Lord’s term) than the devil you don’t.

He who runs away from one cross will be sure to find a bigger one on the road (St. Philip Neri—that quote, albeit in translation, is dead on)

God always gives us shepherds at least as good as we collectively deserve. Sometimes the shepherds are bad because the sheep are awful (less a quote and more a paraphrase pf either St. Augustine or Gregory the Great—they say fairly similar things on the subject as does Ezekiel—I could track them down if I thought that spending more time on this post wouldn’t constitute sloth).

BTW—my tag line is from Newman.


7 posted on 05/23/2019 12:56:50 PM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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