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To: piusv

You’re right. A very long article. Reminiscent of Fidelity only without documented documentation for a lot of the references.

There were a couple of quotes that caught my eye, and a quick search revealed a lot of copying from various websites with no quick references.

There was an interesting quote from St. Alphonsus. If you can dig up a real reference, I’d be happy to pursue further. I don’t think St. Alphonsus wrote as much as Augustine or Albert, but he wrote a good deal, and referencing a quote to him personally with no additional information doesn’t carry much weight with me—it is a starting point, that is all.


18 posted on 05/23/2019 6:40:14 PM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: Hieronymus
Dig up a "real reference"? I'm not even sure what you consider a "real reference". Besides, I don't think I should have to be the one to do the research for you. If you are interested in learning more about it, you can try to find more info about it.

I am happy to see that you are at least open to learning more about what Catholics teach on this matter. I find it odd, however, that you have focused mostly on one quote from one saint rather than the numerous quotes from popes and councils.

19 posted on 05/24/2019 2:55:26 AM PDT by piusv
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