Posted on 03/11/2019 10:27:49 PM PDT by OddLane
Critics of the doctrine of the Trinity often claim that the theology of the Old Testament is inconsistent with orthodox Christian theology. However, a closer look at the Torah and the writings of the prophets shows that that there is a clear plurality within the nature of the God revealed in the Old Testament. Does a careful reading of pre-Christian scriptures contradict the Trinitarian theology of the New Testament? Anthony Rogers discusses the issue.
The Trinity is all through the Old Testament.
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Gen 18:1 And the LORD appeared unto him by the terebinths of Mamre, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
Gen 18:2 and he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood over against him; and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed down to the earth,
Gen 18:9 And they said unto him: ‘Where is Sarah thy wife?’ And he said: ‘Behold, in the tent.’
Genesis 18:2 “three men” Genesis 18:9 “They said”.
A Christian might lead his or herself to believe it...not that there’s necessarily anything wrong with that, as it turns out.
The Doctrine of the Trinity is a FRAUD! Dictated and coerced by Emperor Constantine at Nicea when the conference could not decide.
Then it was rejected and destroyed by Constantine after he was baptised.
It was later reintroduced by Julian the Apostate to sow contention in Christianity.
Later it was declared the State Capital Religion on the pain of death by Emperor Theodosius in the Eddict of Thessalonica.
Dictation and Capital Punishment is NOT how God establishes his doctrine!!!
Clearly the Old Testament defines a pre-mortal Christ who is inferior to Almighty God, not equal, not homoousis.
The inference of this pre-mortal Christ in no way justifies the ‘homoousis’ or as I think of it, the split-personality-disorder defined by the various Creeds.
If the ‘Doctrine of the Trinity’ was what God intended, .... then you wouldn’t have to have non-biblical Creeds to define it.
Trinity violates the first commandment.
The Gospel of John makes it clear that their is only one “authority” in heaven - thus, one God. God IS love, therefore it involves more than one “persona”. The union between man and women in Genesis 2 is the best example we have on earth. This really is very clear to me.
There are so many things wrong in that comment I don’t even know where to begin.
How does worshipping God violate the 1st Commandment?
The OT is mostly about Jesus.
I vividly remember the exact location of my seat because it was there that I first opened up to the Trinity, a moment still etched in my mind.
Projected in the front of the room were three large depictions of nitrate in bold black and white. We were studying resonance, the configuration of electrons in certain molecules. The basic concept of resonance is easy enough to understand, even without a background in chemistry. Essentially, the building block of every physical object is an atom, a positively charged nucleus orbited by tiny, negatively charged electrons. Atoms bond to one another by sharing their electrons, forming a molecule. Different arrangements of the electrons in certain molecules are called "resonance structures." Some molecules, like water, have no resonance while others have three resonance structures or more, like the nitrate on the board...
"Technically, molecule with resonance is every one of its structures at every point in time, yet no single one of its structures at any point in time.
Check your history.
It is a fact that after the Council of Nicea could not agree, Constantine recommended (dictated) the ‘homoousis’ portion of the Creed.
It is also a fact, that Nicean Council attendees who did not sign the Creed were expelled from the Empire. It is not much of a leap of faith that they were first coerced through a warning of impending expulsion.
It is a fact that Constantine accepted baptism by Eusibius of Nicodemia, a semi-arian, and that he expelled Nicean clergy and encouraged Semi-Ariansism,it is my understanding that most of the empire accepted this Constantine’s new Arian belief.
It is a fact that Emperor Julian the Apostate sought to encourage a civil war in Christianity by expelling Semi-Arian clergy and re-importing Nicean Clergy.
It is a fact that Emperor Theodosius sought to stop religious disunity of Arianism as well as Paganism by declaring Nicean Christianity as the State Religion though his Eddict of Thessalonica.
THESE FACTS ARE HISTORICAL. YOU CANNOT DISPUTE THEM BECAUSE THEY EACH INDEED DID OCCUR.
These fact easily lend credence to the conclusion that the “Trinitarian’ ideology was decided more by Emperors than by biblical reliance!
Basically, Trinitarianism was a 4th Century construct of the ‘Global Warming’ dispute in today’s era .... only without Fox News and the internet!
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Also, Tertulian has been thought to be the first person to coin the term ‘Trinity’. However, if you read “Against Praxeus’ it is clear that his view was clearly more Arian (you have to read the entire text instead of the single Nicene passage that was fraudulently inserted by later corrupt copiers/translators)
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