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Answering Muslims: Authorship and Dating of the Gospels, Intro
Youtube ^ | 2/20/19 | Islam Critiqued

Posted on 02/21/2019 9:37:44 AM PST by OddLane

In this video we will first make a case for the early unity of the fourfold Gospel before exploring authorship and dating of each one individually in upcoming videos.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: gospels; islam

1 posted on 02/21/2019 9:37:44 AM PST by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Actually, a good case can be made that the gospels were written nearly contemporary with Jesus, or at least composed from notes taken while he was still teaching.

The underlay of Hebrew-language puns, word plays, etc., is overwhelming.


2 posted on 02/21/2019 9:54:07 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight

Any references to that? I would be interested to read. Thanks.


3 posted on 02/21/2019 10:04:01 AM PST by mindburglar (Don't bother. I don't debate.)
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To: CondorFlight
The Gospels themselves disagree w you.

Christ tells them to take nothing with them and teach "all that I have taught you".

Further, Mark and Luke were not among the 12 Apostles, AND we have from both the Apostles and the Church Fathers that the Gospels were taught orally via tradition.

4 posted on 02/21/2019 10:18:00 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: OddLane

Are Muslims behind all the Pervert troubles the Catholic Church is having ? LOL


5 posted on 02/21/2019 10:31:47 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: CondorFlight

You make a good point, they were written much earlier than believed other wise the destruction of Jerusalem would be history rather than prophecy.


6 posted on 02/21/2019 11:59:28 AM PST by ravenwolf (Left laneì hi h wordsi to your mom.)
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To: OddLane

The only answer that you need is “well, we know for sure they were written long before the false prophet Mohammed came along to plagiarize them”.


7 posted on 02/21/2019 12:03:21 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: butlerweave
I think what's happening now is a judgment on the RC church, just like the Sack of Rome by the Landskneckts and the Spanish mercenaries working for the Holy Roman Empire.

It will only get worse, IMO.

The unification between Pope Francis and Islamic figures is very troubling.

8 posted on 02/21/2019 12:32:35 PM PST by OddLane
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To: G Larry

Actually, Mark may not have been among the 12, but he was likely among the 40. He may well have been the man who fled the disciples naked on the evening of the last supper.

Luke was a companion of Paul, writing much of Acts from the first person. The fact that Acts ends abruptly just as tradition says Paul was about to face his own passion argues strongly that Luke-Acts was written almost immediately after its narrative ends.

The notion that the gospels were written mid-first century in no way contradicts the notion that they were taught orally between that time and the Resurrection, a span of 15 to 65 years depending on the gospel.

Most likely timeline of the gospels:

c. 40-50 AD: Aramaic gospel of St. Matthew.
c. 50 AD: Gospel of St. Mark, as told to him by St. Peter.
c. 60-65 AD: Greek (extant) gospel of St. Matthew, having been rewritten in light of St. Mark.
c. 60-65 AD: Gospel of St. Luke, having been written after Matthew, but before the passion of St. Paul
c. 90 AD: Gospel of St. John, assembled in preparation for the disciple’s death or shortly thereafter.


9 posted on 02/21/2019 2:11:27 PM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: dangus
Nothing you said contradicts my point.

The Gospels were spread via oral tradition for between 7 and 57 years.

10 posted on 02/21/2019 2:39:14 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: OddLane

C. S. Lewis, a scholar of myth, said the Gospels do not at all read like myth, but like eye-witness news accounts.


11 posted on 02/21/2019 6:11:05 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: YogicCowboy
Exactly. Luke-Acts is incontrovertible because it's so meticulously well-documented.

I love when Muslims, who don't even know-let alone, understand-their own phony "holy" book try to refute the Gospels.

12 posted on 02/21/2019 8:47:08 PM PST by OddLane
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To: G Larry

OK, the “oral tradition” argument is often used by folks claiming that the gospels were written exceptionally late. I was just clarifying that the oral tradition is not incompatible with direct authorship by the authors attributed to them.


13 posted on 02/22/2019 5:53:03 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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