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[Catholic Caucus] Pope Francis Says ‘No’ Then ‘Maybe’ to Married Priests
National Catholic Register ^ | January 29, 2019 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 01/30/2019 12:10:49 PM PST by ebb tide

Pope Francis Says ‘No’ Then ‘Maybe’ to Married Priests

On the papal plane back from Panama, the Holy Father said he is personally opposed, but then recommended the radical ideas of a missionary bishop who supports ordaining untrained older married men of proven virtue.
Edward Pentin

During his inflight press conference from Panama, Pope Francis gave conflicting signals about the ordination of married men in the Latin rite, on the one hand saying he was personally opposed to it while at the same time open to considering possible radical exceptions.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: ambiguity; francischurch; hypocrite
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Pope raises possibility of married priests, quotes bishop who favors ordaining women

1 posted on 01/30/2019 12:10:49 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Biggirl; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; G Larry; ...

Ping


2 posted on 01/30/2019 12:11:36 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

The only comfort Catholics can find with this Pope and the various verbal hairballs he coughs up is: “ignore him, he’s not speaking ex-Cathedra. Maybe he’ll forget about it.”


3 posted on 01/30/2019 12:14:49 PM PST by PGR88
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To: ebb tide
It's difficult...*very* difficult...for me to imagine Christ wanting His vicars to be without the love and companionship of a wife for their entire lives.Yes,it's true that Christ Himself wasn't married but to hold any of us imperfect humans to that same standard of perfection is unfathomable to me.

Just sayin'...

4 posted on 01/30/2019 12:16:52 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: ebb tide
Back in the day, a good pope would look to Scripture, they would look to what other pope's had already pronounced and they would pray, before answering any question having to do with such important topics.

Frankie has a brain like a weathercock, just a drifting with whatever wind that comes his way.

5 posted on 01/30/2019 12:18:09 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I agree with you.


6 posted on 01/30/2019 12:19:47 PM PST by afterhoursarmory
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To: Gay State Conservative
It's difficult...*very* difficult...for me to imagine Christ wanting His vicars to be without the love and companionship of a wife for their entire lives.

It's not difficult for me to imagine, nor was it for the hundreds of thousands of men in the last 2000 years who joined the priesthood. It's called carrying a cross.

7 posted on 01/30/2019 12:23:14 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I’m of two minds on this.

On the one hand, I can see the logic in a celibate, unmarried priest. Women and families take time. A single man is able to devote basically his whole life to the congregation.

On the other hand, celibacy has never been and easy part of the vocations and, it can be argued, is an unnatural state. It also leaves priests without the experience to advise their married parishioners. The Orthodox allow married priests and they seem to be more Catholic than the Catholic church these days.

So, if I had to choose between the traditional celibate priest of old and a married priest all things being equal, I’d choose the former.

But if the choice is between a shortage of priests, many of who seem to be gay and/or pedophiles vs a more sizeable group that also includes married priests, and that seems to be the realistic choice today, then I’d lean toward the latter.


8 posted on 01/30/2019 12:24:20 PM PST by chrisser
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To: chrisser

I didn’t notice the Catholic Caucus notation.

I was raised Catholic, but have found myself unable to support the Church as it has morphed into an organization I no longer recognize. If that makes me ineligible to post on this thread, please flag my posts for removal.


9 posted on 01/30/2019 12:32:17 PM PST by chrisser
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To: Slyfox

He comes from the Peron Argentina school of political opportunism.


10 posted on 01/30/2019 12:35:38 PM PST by FranklinsTower
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To: chrisser

Well Francis is definitely of two, if not many, minds.


11 posted on 01/30/2019 12:41:25 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: chrisser

Nice post. I tend to agree, I see a wonderful value in full time priests, and understand the degree to which a divided heart and mind might affect the ability of a priest to focus on his vocation. But the unnatural aspect makes me wish there was at least an order for guys who had the calling, but wanted to also enjoy a relationship and possibly fatherhood.

Last month a young man at our Catholic school did one of the readings at a mass - and I was astounded at his presence. I asked him later if he was considering the priesthood, and he told me that he is indeed trying to choose between the priesthood, and having a family. That seemed very sad to me that he must have 1 or the other. This is such a wonderful young man who could minister to so many - yet he has a good family life (lovely parents and siblings) - and cannot imagine living without that.

I understand the beauty of dedicated priests, but I do wish there were some path for young men like him.


13 posted on 01/30/2019 12:54:41 PM PST by nerdgirl
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To: ebb tide

How does he feel about gay married priests.


14 posted on 01/30/2019 1:14:03 PM PST by cnsmom
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To: cnsmom
For Francis, the Sins “Below the Belt” Are “the Lightest”

Who needs "marriage" anymore, since it's now so fluid?

15 posted on 01/30/2019 1:22:31 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

After all the gay/pedophile priests, a heterosexual priest who sticks with his wife would be a blessing. Catholic clergy, being celebate, does not go all the way back to the beginnings of the church.


16 posted on 01/30/2019 2:21:55 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: ebb tide

translation: Only where necessary to keep the collection baskets filled.


17 posted on 01/31/2019 10:47:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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