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IMHO it's the Eucharist that disarms the righteous ones in the RCC from demanding reforms.

All of us know good Catholics who say they want the RCC to quit shielding pedophiles, quit giving up Chinese Catholics to Communist overlords, quit taking up for every leftist talking point, etc. When those of us on the outside looking in say, "Tell them you'll leave if they don't reform" they always bring up the Eucharist.

As a Protestant it's hard for me to relate. To me the thinking is, "Fine. If you believe the bread and wine are Jesus' body and wine and it gives you special contact with Him, that's great. Do it elsewhere, in your home, or another church, at least temporarily until the RCC reforms. We're all better off if you stand firm and the RCC does the necessary reforms." The response is always that it's not a real Eucharist unless an RCC priest blesses the elements. They never say, "I can't pray to St. Augustine at home" or "I can't read the apocrypha books somewhere else". The Eucharist is probably the only belief that's different from the beliefs of other Christians in that it's the one they've been brainwashed into believing to let RCC leaders own them by. I'm sure their practice of letting only RCC members participate in it was part of the brainwashing process.

I wish my Christian brothers in the Catholic church didn't have worldly leaders holding them by the gonads. When I learned my Protestant church used some of its offering money every year to support abortion lobbyists I first tried to get them to reform. I even told them I'd leave and take my offerings and my volunteer time to somewhere else that doesn't support Moloch. When they refused to reform I left. I'm in another church that now is 100% into Jesus and not worldly gods.

I wish that on my Catholic brothers. Try to reform your church. If they don't then leave. Don't let a traditional belief hamstring you from serving Jesus for real.

8 posted on 01/23/2019 7:30:33 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Excellent post!


14 posted on 01/23/2019 8:11:49 AM PST by Yossarian
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To: Tell It Right
The Eucharist is probably the only belief that's different from the beliefs of other Christians in that it's the one they've been brainwashed into believing to let RCC leaders own them by. I'm sure their practice of letting only RCC members participate in it was part of the brainwashing process.

We are brainwashed by the Holy Spirit, He shows us reality and has for 2000 years.

19 posted on 01/23/2019 9:13:11 AM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Tell It Right
The response is always that it's not a real Eucharist unless an RCC priest blesses the elements

And it's not, and we can go back to Ignatius of Antioch (ca AD 110) to document that belief.

If you're searching for a church whose leadership is not composed of sinners, you'll be looking for a long time.

20 posted on 01/23/2019 10:51:47 AM PST by Campion ((marine dad))
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