Posted on 12/14/2018 10:34:46 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
Ukrainian Orthodox priests are due to hold a historic council in Kiev to create a new national church - a move condemned as schism by Russian clergy.
This comes after the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, the spiritual leader of the world's Orthodoxy, recognised the independence of the Ukrainian Church from Moscow.
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Declaration of Christian Faith by St. Gregory the Wonderworker (Ukrainian chant)
https://youtu.be/xHZdpI6lzQA
The head of Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate Filaret met the former deputy director of the CIA Jack Devine and awarded him the order of Saint Andrew the First-Called for his help in creating the united church.
Devine is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Filaret previously awarded Sen John McCain the Order of St Vladimir First Class
Except this is not going to be an independent Ukrainian church. It is going to be an exarchate of the Ecumenical Patriarchate. They will have no authority to appoint their own bishops, canonize saints, or make any decisions regarding their relationship with any other Orthodox Church. All such decisions and authority will reside in Constantinople.
Not that it makes much difference since not a single canonical Orthodox Church outside of the EP recognizes this farce.
Much like now except goodbye to the Russian Orthodox Church.
Actually no. The canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church is autonomous. It has some ties with the ROC but it can pretty much do all of those things w/o Moscow’s approval. And they commemorate the heads of all the other canonical Orthodox churches, who in turn reciprocate. The exception being Constantinople with whom the UOC has severed communion over their entering into communion with schismatics.
Pretty much?
Except for that whole excommunicated but now head of thing.
Some 192 delegates will take part in the unification council of the Orthodox churches in Kyiv on December 15: they will announce the creation of a new, unified, independent Orthodox Church in Ukraine, approve its charter, and elect its leader in two rounds.
Read more on UNIAN: https://www.unian.info/society/10378047-leader-of-new-ukrainian-orthodox-church-to-be-elected-in-two-rounds-media.html
The Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople will hand over a Tomos — a decree granting independence, or autocephaly — to the future head of the local Orthodox Church in Ukraine on January 6, Archbishop Yevstratiy, a spokesman for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kyiv Patriarchate said on December 13.
Senior figures from Orthodox Christian communities in Ukraine will meet on December 15 in a bid to form a new, unified, independent Ukrainian Orthodox Church and elect a leader, known as a Primate.
The December 15 “unity gathering” will be held at St. Sophia’s Cathedral in Kyiv and will be attended by Bartholomew.
“The Tomos of the Ecumenical Patriarch should be handed over to the [future] Primate on January 6 [on Christmas Eve],” Ukrainian and Russian media quoted Yevstratiy as saying.
Most Christian Orthodox believers will celebrate Christmas on January 7.
The excommunications have not been lifted. Only the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church can do that. The Ecumenical Patriarchate is completely isolated. Not one canonical Orthodox church recognizes this. Poor Bart, he desperately wants to be the Orthodox Pope.
You can stop posting what Ukrainians can and cannot do or have done now.
Those days are history. Ancient history.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filaret_(Denysenko)
On October 11, 2018, the Patriarchate of Constantinople restored him in church communion.[9]
That’s nice. And I have commanded the sun to rise in the west tomorrow. Both have roughly the same relationship to reality. The EP is not an Orthodox Pope and these schismatics are in communion with no one but him.
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