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To: ravenwolf
I thought like you do for many years, but i have yet to see any scripture which connects Mary with any other children.

I agree there no specific texts that say on Tuesday Joseph and Mary engaged in sexual intercourse....however, when the passages in question are read in context it's clear Joseph and Mary had sex and had other children.

Now, to the point of why did Jesus give Mary to John.

I provide the article below. In summary, at this point it is believed His brothers and sisters were not saved at this point. He gave Mary to one of His closest friends...someone He could trust.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Mary-John.html

The article also notes this is not Jesus giving John to everyone. The Greek behind this passage indicates it is a personal situation. John is to take Mary into his home and care for her.

Also Luke was a Greek he would not have known that the Hebrew meanings was different from the Greek meanings of certain words.

This comment is easily answered by noting that Luke had researched everything as he noted in the opening of this gospel. Also, you presume he would not be conversant in Hebrew.

Paul was not there, he could only know by word of mouth and it might be that Greek was more familiar to him than Hebrew or Aramaic.

Same argument from Luke can be applied here. But you forget Paul was a Pharisee....would he not know Hebrew?

In either situation, the Holy Spirit moved these men to write as they did and use the words they did.

The Greek New Testament doesn't support the Roman Catholic claims on this issue.

51 posted on 12/18/2018 9:47:50 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: ealgeone

.however, when the passages in question are read in context it’s clear Joseph and Mary had sex and had other children.


This is nothing more than assumptions made by people who knew nothing more about it other than secular customs.

I think we need to realize that this was not a normal set of events, it was Miraculous so why do you assume that the Miracle stopped there?

Mary found favor with God because she was not like other women, I believe Mary was a virgin all of her life, i do not believe the Miracle stopped with the birth.

——I provide the article below. In summary, at this point it is believed His brothers and sisters were not saved at this point. He gave Mary to one of His closest friends...someone He could trust.——

I can only remind you that Jesus was considered a nut, his authority would not have been recognized by his family or any one else except John and John had no authority.

—— This comment is easily answered by noting that Luke had researched everything as he noted in the opening of this gospel.-——

I still believe it is a terrible language problem and will note that it was years before Paul or luke could have known anything about it.

By Pauls own words it was three years before he even went to see Peter and was with him only fifteen days and possibly 14 years later saw him again.

He only saw Peter and James on his first visit so by his words it must have been many years before he met any of the other apostles.

So who was he interviewing?

-—In either situation, the Holy Spirit moved these men to write as they did and use the words they did.-—

There is no proof of that at all and if the holy spirit was involved why would Luke have to research it.

If you watch TV you can see that each side of the political chain claims they have proof but at the end of the day there is only proof of what side they are on.

When you listen to the commentators they do not know any more than what they did to begin with, it is all just speculation, but they do believe the system is using the hearings to some how get to Trump.

The protestants are using Mary to show their bias for the Catholic Church, i think it is a shame.


52 posted on 12/18/2018 10:45:09 AM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
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