[NorthMountain]

If the Church returns to the Latin Mass, and does nothing else, she will NOT be better off at all.

Restoring the use of a specific liturgical language, returning to the sacramental and liturgical forms (not just the Mass, but the other sacraments and hourly prayers as well) of 1960 may well be a necessary condition to restoring the Church. It is not a sufficient condition. Returning to the "status quo ante" Vatican II will put us back in the condition that created Vatican II. WE NEED TO CLEAN UP OUR ACT in a whole host of ways. Doing a better job of identifying and removing sodomites, heretics, and infidels from among the clergy and religious IS ABSLOUTELY a necessary condition for restoration of the Church ... and a far more important one than liturgical forms.

The "new Mass" and the revolutionary chaos that accompanied it did not cause our problems. Quite the contrary: our problems, of sodomy, heresy, and infidelity caused the "new Mass" and the revolutionary chaos that accompanied it. You have the cart before the horse.

I realize that this is a difficult truth for many "Traditionalists" to accept.

[piusv]

If the Church returns to the Latin Mass, and does nothing else, she will NOT be better off at all.

This might explain things. Do you think the only issue with Vatican II is a liturgical one?

[ebb tide]

The "new Mass" and the revolutionary chaos that accompanied it did not cause our problems.

That's B.S. How can you disassociate "chaos" from "problems" in the same sentence?

We we now have gay novus ordo Masses throughout the country.

Have you ever witnessed, or even heard of, a gay Traditional Latin Mass?

Cdl. Joseph Bernardin standing beneath the rainbow flag at 1991 inaugural Mass at Resurrection Parish.

And now, an orthodox priest burns the above flag has to go into hiding, because Franciscardinal Cupcake Cupich wants to commit him to St. Luke's, a haven for homosexuals and administered by homosexuals. Go in straight and come out queer.

[ebb tide]

If the Church returns to the Latin Mass, and does nothing else, she will NOT be better off at all.

Have you ever witnessed, or even heard of, a clown TLM?

Or a pre-concilar pope who posed as a clown?