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To: ebb tide
There was not peace before Russia had errors to spread. At this point, I'm not sure who is spreading more errors: Russia or USA. I'll note that no "Traditional Catholic" Pope ever "consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart", despite have the opportunity to do so.

Modernism

Shrug. Priests and bishops were educated and formed in "Traditional Catholicism", swore an oath against modernism ... and then proceeded to engage in sodomy, heresy, and infidelity. Then they went to Vatican II with malice aforethought ... that council wasn't hijacked, it was a disaster from the beginning.

Sodomy is a sin. Poverty is not. Sodomites is Roman Collars can be identified and defenestrated. "Traditional Catholicism" failed to do this in the XIX and XX Centuries. We must do better in the future. The "Traditional Catholicism" of Pius V (which you have referenced) is a better model than the "Traditional Catholicism" of the XIX and XX Centuries, which was an abject failure.

48 posted on 10/11/2018 12:13:41 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
Sodomy is a sin. Poverty is not.

And yet like poverty, sin will always be with us. That's why Christ instituted the Sacrament of Confession; it wasn't on a temporary basis.

And now, we have a post-conciliar pope who says one does not even need to vocalize his sins in the confessional, if he's too embarresed, to be absolved.

No pre-conciliar pope ever proposed such a thing.

49 posted on 10/11/2018 1:17:33 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain
I'll note that no "Traditional Catholic" Pope ever "consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart", despite have the opportunity to do so.

I'll be the first to admit, and also regret, that fact.

Do you know what? Our Lady asked for the Consecration of Russia be performed by 1960. It was never done. And guess what? John XXIII called for a council in 1959, and said council opened in 1962.

If Pope Pius XI had made the consecration of Russia in union with all the bishops of the Church, the following things would have resulted:

  1. Russia would have been converted before amassing the power to spread the errors of atheistic Communism all over the world.
  2. There would have been no World War II, through which Russia captured half of Europe, gaining the economic means to infect the world with atheistic Communism.
  3. There would have been no Soviet Union, no Red China, no communist North Korea, no communist Vietnam, no communist Cuba, and no Christian martyrs in those countries.
  4. There would have been no Russian supported communist uprisings and revolutions throughout the world, in Africa, South America and Asia.
  5. Christian countries would not have been morally and spiritually undermined by Soviet propaganda.
  6. There would have been peace throughout the world during the second half of the twentieth century!
  7. The West would have been better united and morally and spiritually stronger for meeting the threat of Islamic terrorism, and acting more effectively against it.

Pope Pius XI failed to make the consecration of Russia as requested by Our Lady. Great suffering resulted from this, for the world and for the Church. Sister Lucia said Our Lord spoke to her in an intimate communication, saying “They did not wish to heed my request…they will repent and do it, but it will be late. Russia will already have spread her errors throughout the world, provoking wars and the persecution of the Church; the Holy Father will have much to suffer.” The consecration would be made, eventually, but it would be too late to prevent the evils foretold by Our Lady if the consecration was not made in time.

50 posted on 10/11/2018 2:21:36 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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