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[Cath Cauc] Source: Vatican cardinal was at drug-fueled homosexual party, and Pope knows it
LifeSite News ^ | October 10, 2018 | John-Henry Westen and Maike Hickson

Posted on 10/10/2018 1:31:10 PM PDT by ebb tide

ROME, October 10, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio, a close collaborator of Pope Francis, was present at the homosexual drug-fuelled party raided by the Vatican police in the summer of 2017 at which his secretary, Monsignor Luigi Capozzi, was arrested.

A highly-placed Vatican source with direct knowledge, who must remain anonymous for fear of reprisal, tells LifeSite that the Pope himself knows of Coccopalmerio’s presence at the party. The party took place in an apartment in the building of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF).

Coccopalmerio was head of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts until his retirement in April.

The same Vatican source spoke in more depth in a private meeting this summer with a group of priests, three of whom spoke to LifeSite about it.

One of these priests told LifeSite that according to the Vatican source, Cardinal Coccopalmerio, 80, was not only an attendee. The source said “in fact, that he ‘was presiding’ over it when the Vatican Gendarmes broke in, and that they instructed him to absent himself before they started making arrests,” according to the priest.

Another priest who was at the private meeting said the Vatican source “stated clearly to me and a number of others that, when the police raided the apartment and arrested Capozzi, Cardinal Coccopalmerio was actually present at the orgy.” He was then told by the police to leave “immediately.” This priest added that the source “gave us to understand that Coccopalmerio is a practicing homosexual.”

A third priest told LifeSite that he “heard in an informal conversation in the presence of other priests from a high-ranking cleric within the Roman Curia” that at the reported 'homosexual orgy' “said Cardinal was present and quickly whisked away by Vatican police.”

As LifeSiteNews reported earlier, Pope Francis himself insisted that Monsignor Capozzi be given that apartment in the CDF building, instead of the secretary of the then-prefect for the CDF, Cardinal Gerhard Müller.

Coccopalmerio has spoken in the past about the “positive realities” that can be found in homosexual relationships. Prior to working in the Vatican he was an auxiliary bishop of Milan under Cardinal Carlo Martini. He said in a 2014 interview with Rossoporpora: “If I meet a homosexual couple, I notice immediately that their relationship is illicit: the doctrine says this, which I reaffirm with absolute certainty. However, if I stop at the doctrine, I don’t look anymore at the persons. But if I see that the two persons truly love each other, do acts of charity to those in need, for example ... then I can also say that, although the relationship remains illicit, positive elements also emerge in the two persons. Instead of closing our eyes to such positive realities, I emphasize them. It is to be objective and objectively recognize the positive [parts] of a certain relationship, of itself illicit.”

The cardinal’s reduction of moral truth to a vague notional status (an “ideal”), with no necessary bearing on conduct, is the same as Pope Francis' approach in his post-synodal exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

Accordingly, Coccopalmerio is a strong supporter of Amoris Laetitia. He wrote a booklet titled The eighth Chapter of the post-synodal apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia praising the more lenient attitude toward “remarried divorcees.” Holy Communion, insisted the cardinal, “must be given” to them.

Benjamin Leven, a German theologian and editor of the German Catholic journal Herder Korrespondenz, explains in the October 2018 issue of that journal that, according to his own sources, it was Cardinal Coccopalmerio who approached the Pope in favor of the child abuser Don Mauro Inzoli in order to have him partially reinstated as priest. As Leven puts it, in this incident Coccopalmerio played here “an unworthy role.” This cardinal, Leven continues, is known in Rome for generally opposing the removal of culprit priests from the priesthood, which for him is a sort of “death penalty.”

In light of these new revelations, the fact that the roof of St. Joseph the Carpenter Church, Coccopalmerio's own titular Church in Rome, collapsed in August 2018 might gain further significance.

RELATED: Pope knowingly gave Vatican apartment to gay priest later caught in cocaine-fuelled orgy



TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: coccopalmerio; francischurch; homos; modernists
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To: ebb tide

Putting me in the same bucket as Frankie the Talking Heretic borders on slander. It also indicates to me very clearly that you have not been reading what I have been writing. So seriously: Try listening for a change.


61 posted on 10/11/2018 3:33:02 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Reinhard Marx was baptized, received the Sacraments of Confession, Holy Communion and Confirmation as a traditional Catholic.

Two can play your semantics game.


62 posted on 10/11/2018 3:35:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain
Putting me in the same bucket as Frankie the Talking Heretic borders on slander.

Slandering Francis? I didn't mean to.

63 posted on 10/11/2018 3:39:12 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
I'm not "playing semantics games". If this is a "game" to you, buzz off!

Ol' Marx was ordained after V-2, so he's in somewhat of a gray area.

Your list, of course, illustrates my point. Thank you for posting it.

64 posted on 10/11/2018 3:40:15 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide
Frankie probably would feel slandered by the comparison. You were probably trying to insult me again, but you failed utterly. You acknowledge that putting me in the same bucket as FtTH is wrong. Why did you do it in the first place? Your comment reflects very badly on you.

I also note that you're starting to make this discussion personal. Do try to avoid that. It reflects badly on you.

65 posted on 10/11/2018 3:43:31 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
I stand by my statement. When you condemn Modernism and modernists, and admit that a return to Tradition will help heal the Church, I'll reconsider.

I also note that you're starting to make this discussion personal.

Really? You state this after telling me to "buzz off"?

66 posted on 10/11/2018 4:00:11 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain
I am going to read and post on any thread that interests me. I rarely notice who posted the thread, nor do I care in the slightest.

Check out your first post (#4) on this thread, and honestly tell me you're not carrying a grudge across threads.

That post of yours had nothing to do with the topic article, yet you hijacked it and I fell for it. My bad. I've learned my lesson.

67 posted on 10/11/2018 4:25:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain; ebb tide
If the Church returns to the Latin Mass, and does nothing else, she will NOT be better off at all.

This might explain things. Do you think the only issue with Vatican II is a liturgical one?

68 posted on 10/11/2018 5:21:29 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv; NorthMountain
Do you think the only issue with Vatican II is a liturgical one?

I don't and I agree with you, Pius.

69 posted on 10/11/2018 5:25:02 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain; piusv
The "new Mass" and the revolutionary chaos that accompanied it did not cause our problems.

That's B.S. How can you disassociate "chaos" from "problems" in the same sentence?

We we now have gay novus ordo Masses throughout the country.

Have you ever witnessed, or even heard of, a gay Traditional Latin Mass?


Cdl. Joseph Bernardin standing beneath the rainbow flag at 1991 inaugural Mass at Resurrection Parish.

And now, an orthodox priest burns the above flag has to go into hiding, because Franciscardinal Cupcake Cupich wants to commit him to St. Luke's, a haven for homosexuals and administered by homosexuals. Go in straight and come out queer.


70 posted on 10/11/2018 5:45:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Yes i know ebb..i pinged you given the quoted text in that post was originally posted to you.


71 posted on 10/11/2018 5:56:45 PM PDT by piusv
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To: NorthMountain; piusv
If the Church returns to the Latin Mass, and does nothing else, she will NOT be better off at all.

Have you ever witnessed, or even heard of, a clown TLM?

Or a pre-concilar pope who posed as a clown?


72 posted on 10/11/2018 6:17:39 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Your posts numbered 60, 62, 63, and 66 combine to tell me that you're not presently interested in serious discussion.

Perhaps at another time ... but this discussion is ended.

Numbers 6:24-26

73 posted on 10/12/2018 4:32:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

When you’re ready to talk about the elephant in the room, I’ll be here.


74 posted on 10/12/2018 5:53:53 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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