[ebb tide]

The Holy Mass, codified by Pope St. Pius V, was in universal use until VC II. There are no “degrees” of traditional Catholicism, whether it was in the 1500’s or 1950’s.

After VC II, Paul VI suppressed that Mass and mandated Bugnini’s Mass.

What followed is not traditional Catholicism.

[NorthMountain]

That's all very well and good ... and irrelevant.

Bugnini’s Mass

Bugnini was raised, educated, ordained, further educated, and consecrated a bishop in "Traditional Catholicism".

Montini, who would become Paul VI, was raised, educated, ordained, further educated, and consecrated a bishop in "Traditional Catholicism".

You keep proving my point.

Thank you.

Vatican II did not happen in a vacuum.