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To: imardmd1

Very interesting discussion.
Two comments:

1) If anything is left that I MUST do for full justification before the Father, then Christs’ work was not enough - which I reject. We can never achieve Holiness, this is imputed upon us as a gift. And those who have been fully justified and are living with imputed Holiness respond with enthusiasm and joy!

2) What happens to those who do not exhibit the enthusiasm and joy which I would expect? NOT MY PROBLEM! To even guess is to pass judgement, which we have been clearly admonished not to do. I trust Jesus to know the sheep from the goats and to sort them accordingly. He knows His own.

Thanks!


157 posted on 10/04/2018 11:42:34 AM PDT by impactplayer
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To: impactplayer
If anything is left that I MUST do for full justification before the Father, then Christs’ work was not enough - which I reject.

Where did I say or infer that? All I said is that there were some actions that Jesus had to perform subsequent to His Cross-death before the judicial pardon of the pleading, trusting sinner could be issued.

We can never achieve Holiness, this is imputed upon us as a gift.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. It is Jesus' righteousness that is imputed to the repentant regenerated justified servant of his new Owner, The Lord Jesus Christ. The quality of holiness is not imputed to the new babe in Christ. It is earned by personal growth in the ongoing lifelong process of sanctification. That is why the redeemed believer will be appear at the Judgment Seat of Christ to receive rewards based on his/her works. Or absence of them, as it may be for those who think it is not their personal responsibility. You have completely ignored my lesson regarding personal responsibility for becoming holy. Holding to your heretical error is precisely why the Romanists reject their perception of Calvinism.

Have you not read Hebrews 12:4-10? Hve you not memorized Romans 6, especially verses 19 and 22? You are saved by faith alone, apart from works, but after being saved and simultaneously justified, you are expected to start progressing on the sanctification curve through personal application and spiritual growth as a disciple. none of that is imputed.

Let me suggest that you might consider gaining a better knowledge of Biblical doctrine through regular guidance as a disciple of an experienced servant of God, sort of the way Timothy matured.

159 posted on 10/04/2018 1:38:53 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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