Why Every Christian, Not Just Catholics, Should Be Very Worried About The Catholic Sex Scandal

The Federalist ^ | 09/17/2018 | By Willis L. Krumholz and Robert Delahunty

[Twink]

Especially since Catholicism is Christianity so theres that.

[Twink]

I think he was, too.

I also think it had to do with the homosexual infiltration and the abuse scandals.

Make no mistake, it is rampant there as it is in every institution in our society. Some more blatant that aren’t focused on now.

[Twink]

Chasity is a good thing for those who choose it. Unfortunately, the Catholic Priesthood has been a haven for homosexuals. Fine. What’s not fine is that the foundation is now so infiltrated that doctrine is being changed to accommodate the perversion. Just as in our society as a whole which is what we should all be focusing on, imo, but whatever.

Yes, a tiny percentage of priests are homosexuals, sexual predators, etc. They’re the focus now because it’s easy. A larger percentage of the populace is also sexual predators but we can’t focus on that now. RME. Or we do focus on them and it’s the #metoo brouhaha. RME.

Found out today that one of the 24 arrested in NJ, in the sex ring, is someone I know well. Really well. Family friend.

[Twink]

Same here.

See how that works?

[RegulatorCountry]

Keep reading.

[Twink]

It would be nice, if the so called Christians on here would stop attacking each other, but that’s not gonna happen lol. So we are fighting the opposition separately. Shame.

The last people I worry about (even though I may think they’re wrong, or weird,etc.) are the fundamentalist Christians, Evangelicals, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses (theyre really weird), Amish, etc. I don’t worry about them. The liberals in all of these groups are the issue, imo combined with the liberals in the general. Those are who we need to worry about as well as the people who follow a “religion” from the 7th Century.

Seriously, you people fight all this nonsense when liberalism and Islam is taking over the world and is in every aspect of our culture. SMH.

[Twink]

Just point me to it, please.

[wardaddy]

I have a strong appreciation for the Catholic Church and it’s history of stewardship of western civilization....likely the most profound determinant this side of Christianity itself.

I am a godparent to a wonderful 34 year old gal from southeast Texas where she’s mother to two fine kids and wife to a red blooded Texas oil patch contractor who builds those big tanks you see around production wells all over the Permian basin and Austin chalk

I am pretty close to her and have her in my will.

They are people like us and understand the fight we’re in

I had to undergo two days orientation since I was raised southern baptist ....these days I attend baptist and Presbyterian and even some charismatic services

Anyhow I noticed the priest was obviously a homosexual and my lady friend ...her mom...told me to “shut up” the way southern girls say “bless your heart”

Lol

A few years ago after they had shipped around Southeast Texas and western Louisiana. And Nacogdoches.....and a string of sexual abuse of boys allegations trailing after him he died of AIDS in 1996

The Beaumont diocese under Bishop Guillory paid out millions

It simply cannot be tolerated is my view

How much control can laity exercise over the clergy in Catholicism

I confess to be ignorant

As a Baptist we boot errant preachers pretty damn fast...on a rail....no severance

I’ve seen it in my life..

Usually involves adultery with organ player or a deacons wife

Preachers are charismatic by nature

Gets hormones going even in church ladies...lol

NO i am not the young lady’s daddy....he was a rich boy from outta town who refused to take his responsibility

But his sister to her credit sure has once she found out and got his royalties from production wells signed over to her niece

People always thinki was her daddy....if I was her daddy she’d a known from jump street and I’d been there

You make em ..you raise em....I’d hang my head in the afterlife in front of the men who came before me if I didn’t

[Elsie]

All I wanted was a Yes or a No! Try again; Ma'am.

[Elsie]

What did Mary ever tell anybody to do?

REALLY???

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Besides the Indulgences attached to the Rosary, Our Lady revealed to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche additional benefits for those who devoutly pray the Rosary. Our Lady's promise is shown in darker blue text. Additional explanation on and doctrinal connections to each promise is shown following in the smaller normal text font and color. Note that the Rosary is the prayer (non-Liturgical) with the most published Magisterial / Papal documents expounding on its excellence. Vatican II's summary on Our Lady is contained in Lumen Gentium chapter VIII.

1.	Whosoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces. Signal Graces are those special and unique Graces to help sanctify us in our state in life. See the remaining promises for an explanation for which these will consist. St. Louis de Montfort states emphatically that the best and fastest way to union with Our Lord is via Our Lady [True Devotion to Mary, chapter four].
2.	I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary. Our Lady is our Advocate and the channel of all God's Grace to us. Our Lady is simply highlighting that She will watch especially over us who pray the Rosary. (see Lumen Gentium chapter VIII - Our Lady #62) [a great more detail is available on this topic in True Devotion to Mary, chapter four, by St. Louis de Montfort]
3.	The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin and defeat heresies. This promise, along with the next, is simply the reminder on how fervent prayer will help us all grow in holiness by avoiding sin, especially a prayer with the excellence of the Rosary. An increase in holiness necessarily requires a reduction in sin, vice, and doctrinal errors (heresies). If only the Modernists could be convinced to pray the Rosary! (see Lumen Gentium chapter V - The Call to Holiness #42) St. Louis de Montfort states "Since Mary alone crushed all heresies, as we are told by the Church under the guidance of the Holy Spirit (Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary)..." [True Devotion to Mary #167]
4.	It will cause good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire for Eternal Things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means. This promise, along with the previous, is the positive part, that being to live in virtue. Becoming holy is not only avoiding sin, but also growing in virtue. (see Lumen Gentium chapter V - The Call to Holiness #42)
5.	The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary shall not perish. Since Our Lady is our Mother and Advocate, She always assists those who call on Her implicitly by praying the Rosary. The Church reminds us of this in the Memorare prayer, "... never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help or sought your intercession, was left unaided ..."
6.	Whosoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of Eternal Life. This promise highlights the magnitude of Graces that the Rosary brings to whomever prays it. One will draw down God's Mercy rather than His Justice and will have a final chance to repent (see promise #7). One will not be conquered by misfortune means that Our Lady will obtain for the person sufficient Graces to handle said misfortune (i.e. carry the Crosses allowed by God) without falling into despair. As Sacred Scripture tells us, "For my yoke is sweet and my burden light." (Matthew 11:30)
7.	Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church. This promise highlights the benefits of obtaining the most possible Graces at the hour of death via the Sacraments of Confession, Eucharist, and Extreme Unction (Anointing of the Sick). Being properly disposed while receiving these Sacraments near death ensures one's salvation (although perhaps with a detour through Purgatory) since a final repentance is possible.
8.	Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the Light of God and the plenitude of His Graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the Merits of the Saints in Paradise. Our Lady highlights the great quantity of Graces obtain through praying the Rosary, which assist us during life and at the moment of death. The merits of the Saints are the gift of God's rewards to those persons who responded to His Grace that they obtained during life, and so Our Lady indicates that She will provide a share of that to us at death. With this promise and #7 above, Our Lady is providing the means for the person to have a very holy death.
9.	I shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary. Should one require Purgatorial cleansing after death, Our Lady will make a special effort to obtain our release from Purgatory through Her intercession as Advocate.
10.	The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of Glory in Heaven. This promise is a logical consequence of promises #3 and #4 since anyone who truly lives a holier life on earth will obtain a higher place in Heaven. The closer one is to God while living on earth, the close that person is to Him also in Heaven. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states "Spiritual progress tends toward ever more union with Christ." (Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraph 2014)
11.	You shall obtain all you ask of me by recitation of the Rosary. This promise emphasizes Our Lady's role as our Advocate and Mediatrix of all Graces. Of course, all requests are subject to God's Most Perfect Will. God will always grant our request if it is beneficial for our soul, and Our Lady will only intercede for us when our request is good for our salvation. (see Lumen Gentium chapter VIII - Our Lady #62)
12.	All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities. If one promotes the praying of the Rosary, Our Lady emphasizes Her Maternal care for us by obtaining many Graces (i.e. spiritual necessities) and also material necessities (neither excess nor luxury), all subject to the Will of God of course.
13.	I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire Celestial Court during their life and at the hour of death. Since Our Lady is our Advocate, She brings us additional assistance during our life and at our death from all the saints in Heaven (the Communion of Saints). See paragraphs 954 through 959 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
14.	All who recite the Rosary are my Sons, and brothers of my Only Son Jesus Christ. Since the Rosary is a most excellent prayer focused on Jesus and His Life and activities in salvation history, it brings us closer to Our Lord and Our Lady. Doctrinally, Our Lady is our Mother and Jesus is our Eldest Brother, besides being our God. (see Lumen Gentium chapter VIII - Our Lady #62)
15.	Devotion to my Rosary is a great sign of predestination. Predestination in this context means that, by the sign which is present to a person from the action of devoutly praying the Rosary, God has pre-ordained your salvation. Absolute certainty of salvation can only be truly known if God reveals it to a person because, although we are given sufficient Grace during life, our salvation depends upon our response to said Grace. (See Summa Theologica, Question 23 for a detailed theological explanation). Said another way, if God has guaranteed a person's salvation but has not revealed it to Him, God would want that person to pray the Rosary because of all the benefits and Graces obtained. Therefore the person gets a hint by devotion to the Rosary. This is not to say that praying the Rosary guarantees salvation - by no means. In looking at promises #3 and #4 above, praying the Rosary helps one to live a holy life, which is itself a great sign that a soul is on the road to salvation. (See also paragraphs 381, 488, 600, 2782 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.) In fact, St. Louis de Montfort says even more strongly that "an infallible and unmistakable sign by which we can distinguish a heretic, a man of false doctrine, an enemy of God, from one of God's true friends is that the hardened sinner and heretic show nothing but contempt and indifference to Our Lady..." [True Devotion to Mary, #30]

Reminder: these promises mean that, by faithfully and devoutly praying the Rosary,

Our Lady will obtain for us the necessary Graces to obtain said promises.

It is still up to each individual soul to respond to those Graces in order to obtain salvation.

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http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/prayer/15promise.htm

[Elsie]

Here's a direct quote: "Do whatever He tells you."

Here is what He told folks:

"Call no man father."

[metmom]

BB: "I don’t recall seeing a single post from a protestant FReeper during Pope Benedict’s reign saying they liked or admired or respected him, even when he said stuff they agreed with or promoted conservative values. Mostly they mocked how old he was and called him “NAZI Pope” because he had been forced to join Hitler Youth as a child.

But now tons of them retroactively claim he was a good Christian leader."

The antecedent for *them* (in "tons of them") is in the previous sentence is the protestant Freepers he was referring to in the first sentence.

So where are the *tons* of Prot Freepers who did that? For that matter, where are *tons* of Prot Freepers in the first place?

[Popman]

——Time to turn your “glaze” elsewhere because it’s huge.——

As compared to the RCC problems ?

Ok if you say so...

The numbers simply don’t bear your statement out...

[metmom]

GMTA.

I didn’t get an answer either...

[Elsie]

Tell me, do you know where that line in Scripture is, and who it’s being spoken to?

 

Well; Catholicism uses the context of that verse in a twisted way to convince it's obediant followers that Jesus is somehow subservient to His mother.

But; alas; the text in NO way shows that at all!

 

 

 

 

All the Words of Mary...
...as recorded in the Bible.

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 ...To the angel
“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” 
Mary answered. “May it be to me as you have said.”   (Luke 1:30-38)

 

...To Elizabeth
And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me—holy is his name. His mercy extends to those who fear him, from generation to generation. He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts. He has brought down rulers from their thrones but has lifted up the humble. He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty. He has helped his servant Israel, remembering to be merciful to Abraham and his descendants forever, even as he said to our fathers.” (Luke 1:46-55)

 

 ...To Jesus
His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.”  (Luke 2:48-50)

 

... at Cana
And when the wine gave out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.”
His mother said to the servants, “Whatever He says to you, do it” (John 2:3-5).

[Elsie]

More about Mary, the Mother of the Messiah, our mother:

"Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring -- those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus." Revelation 12:17

Her other offspring --- the other children of Mary--- are defined as "those who keep God's commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus."

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^{Context Ma'am; context...}

 

 

¹⁴ The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. ¹⁵ Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. ¹⁶ But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.

 

 

And when did all of THIS happen to "our mother"???

[Elsie]

In the spiritual sense she’s saying it to everyone.

To whom was 'Call no man father' directed; and why doesn't it apply to EVERYONE; spiritually?

[Elsie]

...while you moved the goal posts,...

On wheels; motorized and radio controlled; too!

[Elsie]

Since I'd never seen this stuff, it is unfair for you to imagine deviousness on my part.

Call no man father (except that Catholics get a pass)

[Elsie]

Since I'd never seen this stuff, it is unfair for you to imagine deviousness on my part.

Even if they exude to you on their homepage.