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To: daniel1212

God bless you!

This is very helpful and, as always, I really appreciate your effort - now especially, on a personal level.

I will read and re-read your response so that I may understand it completely.

One quick reaction - I’d like to see a “tree” that shows mainline Christianity (THE Church, without any denomination label) as a line that runs straight, right down the middle of the diagram and portrays all the “religious affiliations and denominations” branching away from it.

Thank you so much! and Happy Resurrection Day!

KR


16 posted on 04/06/2023 4:36:10 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: kinsman redeemer
One quick reaction - I’d like to see a “tree” that shows mainline Christianity (THE Church, without any denomination label) as a line that runs straight, right down the middle of the diagram and portrays all the “religious affiliations and denominations” branching away from it.

I have not see one, neither one that shows the "one true Catholic schism or sect."

Based on this post by a RC (https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3755297/posts?page=6#6) but expanded, we have these camps (incomplete list):

1. Those that believe Francis is pope but a heretic.

2. Those who reject Francis as pope, and even as a Catholic (referred to by some as "Bergoglio the Heretic;" who "preaches and authors heresy;" being "the material and formal heretic;" this fraud of a pope; “an apostate,” "not a Catholic;" "Pope Frank..protestant;" "The Impopester;" "The Ecumenical Mass of Bergoglio is straight out of Hell;" "...for which our poor, beleaguered pontiff is nothing more than the ultimate poster boy") Incomplete list.

3. Those who held that Ratzinger was the last valid pope, and not have no living pope.

4. Those that believe disagree with the Pope but are unwilling to go all the way and call him a heretic.

5. Church Militant types that chastise the Bishops but did not do so to the Pope (subject to change).

6. Supporters of "The Wanderer."

7. Supporters of the brother of the publisher of The Wanderer who disowned The Wanderer.

8. The SSPX

9. Those that believe the SSPX is a valid Catholic organization but aren't members.

10. Those who believe the SSPX is in apostasy

11. Those that believe Francis is a false pope and that Ratizinger is (was) the pope, but now have no living pope.

12. The SSPV who reject modern popes and that John XXIII was the first anti-pope or non-Pope and that the Second Vatican Council is invalid

13. Those that believe the SSPV is a valid Catholic organization but aren't members.

14. Those who believe the SSPV is in apostasy.

15. Followers of pope Michael (of Kansas)

16. Followers of Pope Linus II (of England)

17. Followers of Pope Pius XIII (died),

18. Followers of Pope Alexander IX of Argentina

19. Those who also believe the Church is now completely controlled by (name conspiracy).

20. Those who believe it matters little who is pope or what one believes as long as they love the Catholic Mary and receive the Eucharist once a while, vote for liberals, and are in favor of women priests, and are averse to TradCaths, with some accusing them of being like Protestant (evangelicals - since they also make the veracity of church teaching subject their own judgment of what past church teaching consists of and means (but for classic evangelicals past church teaching Scripture is the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed). Both liberal and TradCaths consider evangelicals to be their enemies, despite or because those who most strongly esteem Scripture as the accurate and wholly inspired word of God, with its basic literal hermeneutic, have long testified to being far more conservative and unified in polled core beliefs and values than overall those whom Rome counts as members in life and in death

17 posted on 04/06/2023 4:14:32 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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