Posted on 08/24/2018 7:30:05 PM PDT by marshmallow
The priests presence at the World Meeting of Families caused considerable controversy before he took the stage.
DUBLIN Jesuit Fr. James Martin addressed Thursday more than 1,000 people at the World Meeting of Families in Dublin.
His Aug. 23 talk, Showing Welcome and Respect in our Parishes for LGBT People and their Families, encouraged Catholics to welcome LGBT persons and their families, into parish life.
The priest said those with homophobic pastors, either silently or overtly, are out of luck.
Parishes, he said, should strive to listen to LGBT parishioners trust that the Holy Spirit will guide them in their formation as Christians and Catholics, rather than simply repeating Church teaching without considering their lived experience.
Martins speech warned: Dont reduce LGBT people to the call to chastity we all share.
LGBT people are more than their sexual lives, he said, and if you talk about chastity with LGBT people, do it as much with straight people.
Martin is the author of Building a Bridge: How the Catholic Church and the LGBT Community Can Enter into a Relationship of Respect, Compassion, and Sensitivity. The book drew praise from Cardinal Kevin Farrell, prefect of the Vaticans Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life, and organizer of the World Meeting of Families.
However, critics say the book does not directly address Catholic teaching on celibacy and chastity or engage with Catholics who identify as LGBT while observing the moral teachings of the Catholic Church. The book was criticized by Cardinal Robert Sarah, Archbishop Charles Chaput, and other Church leaders.
New Ways Ministry, a dissenting Catholic group that has been the subject of warnings from the U.S. bishops and the Vatican for confusing Catholic teaching, awarded Fr. Martin in 2016 for having helped to expand the dialogue on LGBT issues in the Catholic.......
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You really haven't been following this issue closely, have you?
The Screwtape Letters is a primer on the Fr. Martins of the world.
In a serious way!!
Like a hawk Pedofilia in thechurch is an organized child rape crime.
No, I don’t see it as a reasonable possibility, either, for a variety of reasons. But a guy can dream.
“But a guy can dream.”
Oh, I do. Too much, probably.
Never forget that queer loving Bergoglio allowed him to speak. He knew every word this faggot was going to say before hand and didnt care because he agrees with him and Bergoglio could care less if homosexuality is destroying the Catholics Church.
If you had been following the issue you would not parrot the faggot media's diversionary language.
We are dealing with a filthy, demonic, sodomite cabal. The faggots in the hierarchy and the news media do not want anybody to know that, so they label them "pedophiles" to hide the homosexual nature of the crimes.
Why is that important? Because this behavior is not confined to clergy; it is the modus operandi of the "gay" community at large. Look at the behavior in Hollywood, at public schools, etc. The homos pine for young boys and sexual assault is the gateway to their twisted mindset. Most fags started out with being assaulted by older fags.
That is the truth and hiding this awful truth behind false labels only helps to perpetuate the crimes.
When a man insists on calling typical homosexual behavior "pedophilia", I can only come to one of two conclusions:
1.) That man ignorant of the issue, or
2.) That man is a fag.
We cannot stress out about what others do.
When Christ said something that led to many who had been following Him going away, He turned to the twelve and asked if they were going to leave too.
“Lord, to whom shall we go?” they replied “You have the words of eternal life.”
We need to cling to God. We need to be like those that the Lord told Elijah about saying: “Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.”
There is always a remnant.
Be clingy, rely on His strength and His wisdom, that’s our job.
I’ll also be right up front: I’m the sort that finds himself praying things like Lord, rescue me again ... even yet again. So when I speak of clinging I’m also talking about using His constant help for that too.
Notice the “and” and that it’s not an “or”?
“cruel and unusual” has entirely different implications that “cruel or unusual” which is essentially how too people seek to apply the standard these days.
A punishment can be very cruel but if it is a not-unusual possible punishment for a given crime it is NOT cruel and unusual. Likewise a punishment can be downright odd for the given crime but if it’s not cruel then that too is okay.
Interesting argument. Is that the generally accepted position of constitutional scholars?
It is an “and”, the function and meaning of which in the English language, even as used in common law, is not a matter of legal theory unless you want to use legaltheory to nullify the proper use of the language.
Here’s another shocking thought for you, backed by no less than John Marshall: the exercise of the original right to make Law is what sets the meaning of the Law to be what those that Ratified it can be said to have agreed to. The act of Ratification sets that meaning in stone until specific successful Amendment occurs as a further exercise of the original right.
Elections are not exercises of the original right. Nor are statues, executive orders or opinions of the Court. This is because the United States, including all of its departments of government, does not have a Sovereign who can make Law by the ordinary means at his disposal. There is no federal common law. So when the original right is exercised it establishes the meaning.
And despite what you may have heard, it is relatively easy to establish what those that ratified can be said to have agreed to ... for example: when Hamilton wrote of a more general power to spend he only did so AFTER Ratification, and since he expressly contradicted what he and others had said before Ratification how can he latter day writings be considered to have been the agreed to meaning of the language? It cannot be, and Hamilton wasn’t the Sovereign to make Law. The purpose of the justifying clause in A1:S8:C1 misused and abused by the current government in abeyance was not to grant power to spend, but to justify the Power to directly levy taxes rather than beg the State’s for funding as under the AoC. There is no power to spend granted by that clause.
(I could go on, to talk about how the enumeration of both Powers and circumstantial, limited exceptions to that doctrine of enumeration demonstrates that those are the only Powers and the only circumstantial exceptions to be had, or else their enumeration represents what Marshall called a superfluity, or having form without function ... but I’ll cut to the chase)
When the Constitution was ratified the phrase “cruel and unusual” had not yet been laid hold of by those who wanted to delegitimize cruel punishments as if that alone were what mattered for legitimacy.
The death penalty in inherently constitutional for a number of sorts of crimes as it was applied when the Constitution was ratified. Punishments like torture, being unlawful among the several States that Ratified the Constitution, would be “cruel and unusual” for that cause, being actually “and unusual” for the Law in question. By contrast community service, a punishment not really much known among the several States when the Constitution was Ratified, may be in that sense very usual an response for any crime but is hardly cruel, so it is not “cruel and unusual”.
Rather the so called scholars, the poorly named “progressive” ones at least, and at least since the likes of C.C. Langdell took over at Harvard, have actually worked to progressively kick the Constitution to the curb with their misrepresentations about living constitutions and have been doing so since even before FDR slimed his way across the national stage.
Excellent post!! Im with you!!
For people, especially Christians, to act as if He won't return for awhile concerns me. Just the fact that sodomy is so widely accepted shows it won't be long now. Most Christians don't know anything about the Leviticus 23 Feast Days. They don't understand the "Day no one knows", the thief in the night, birth pangs, First Fruits, Tabernacles, and more. But most of all, they don't understand the difference between being saved and being Raptured. If you have asked Jesus in your heart, you have salvation, but you must live only for Jesus to be Raptured.
All of this information is right there in Scripture, but most think they don't need it and pastors won't teach it.
Just about all the Fox reporters are Catholics. They NEVER take a stance of same-sex marriage or abortion. To publicly support the Catholic position is to be fired by the liberal Murdoch sons who own Fox. Brian Baier, who most viewers thinks takes his Catholic faith serious, is a fraud. He does not practice the faith and showed his true colors when he tweeted out congratulations to Fox contributor and sodomite Guy Benson, on Bensons marriage to another man. Lets not forget about Trump-hating liberal sodomite Sheppie Smith, whose entire show is badmouthing the president. Fox is scared to fire their resident girly-man. Dont know why hed fit right in on CNN. He and Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper could have a show together and giiggle and blush talking to each other.
I agree wholeheartedly about the shocking Biblical ignorance of the majority of pew-sitters, and even many mainstream pastors. The same people who could sing you the lyrics of thousands of pop songs and advertising jingles. It’s tragic, really. When this country was founded, all schoolchildren studied the Bible, and that remained largely true until 1948, when FDR’s SCOTUS suddenly decided it was unconstitutional.
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