[Albion Wilde]

Dear Methodists and ex-Methodists: how it should be thought about and how it should be done.

[chajin]

Dear Methodists and ex-Methodists: how it should be thought about and how it should be done.

In order for something like this to happen, the United Methodist church would have to un-unite on theological grounds, as the Presbyterians did, as the Lutherans did, as the American Episcopal/Anglicans did.

To expropriate the Presbyterian terms, there would have to be a Methodist Church (USA), a Methodist Church in America, and an Orthodox Methodist Church, with the MC(USA) openly embracing homosexual heterodoxy, the MCA forming a committee with the above result, and the OMC never broaching the issue in the first place--just as, say, among Lutherans the ELCA openly embraces homosexual heterodoxy, the LCMS wrote its own response, and the WELS would not broach the issue (tbh they might have, I didn't check).

[imardmd1]

For the UMC "gay" is the non-fruit-bearing evidence of the root of sin, and it traces back through its routes of nutrition to the root, which is the Sin principle. "Gay" is a non-Vine entity, though clinging to It/Him may simulate the Vine and assume His identity, it is not of God.

Therefore (mixing my metaphors), until the fragment sheds the parasitic infection, it is senseless to claim separation (1 Cor. 6:14-7:1) until the spore, the leaven, is expunged from the constitution of the loaf. That includes the gender-bridging taint of female ordination to the diaconary or eldership, to start with.