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1 posted on 07/31/2018 6:21:11 PM PDT by ebb tide
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It’s not an ‘either/or’.
Correct policies AND holiness are necessary for any organization with such responsibilities.

Just a cranky .02


2 posted on 07/31/2018 6:30:13 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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The Jesuits need to correct their order or be eliminated. The choice will be theirs, until it isn’t.


13 posted on 07/31/2018 7:37:39 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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All of this was enabled by the downplaying the seriousness of personal sin and the emphasis on social sin that occurred after Vatican II. Related to this was the attack on both traditional worship and traditional beliefs. I do not want to hear another word of what Vatican II said. It is time to get back to obeying the Commandments and the right worship of God. The true Catholic faith is what we have received, not what some committee makes up.


15 posted on 07/31/2018 7:45:22 PM PDT by Petrosius
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There should be a rule in the church: Stop trying to explain the whole thing. Summarily dismiss any priest who does it. Turn them over with any evidence to the local authorities.

THAT might start to get people listening to your excuses.


16 posted on 07/31/2018 7:56:27 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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18 posted on 07/31/2018 8:55:08 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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That is why we are called to repentance and conversion.


23 posted on 08/01/2018 4:39:24 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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So, I asked in another thread what the difference was between what is going on now and a couple of decades ago...and got no response. Is this the difference?:

Unfortunately, at that time – something I never understood – the Charter did not go far enough so as to hold cardinals, archbishops and bishops equally, if not more, accountable than priests and deacons.

Because I seem recall Bernard Law's resignation.

24 posted on 08/01/2018 5:00:54 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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“Sexual activity” includes grooming and seduction – the kind of experience that one of our brothers tells of in a recent interview in America magazine that you may have seen. The psychological and spiritual destructiveness of such predatory behavior, really incestuous by a man who is held up as a spiritual father to a son in his care – even if not a minor – cannot be minimized or rationalized in any way. On that, it seems to me, we are experiencing an unusual unity amidst the many political and ecclesial tensions in our communities.

Interesting that he never comes out and states clearly that the scandal is first and foremost a homosexual problem.

26 posted on 08/01/2018 5:03:34 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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