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To: ReaganGeneration2
You are misinformed.

Women called "deaconesses" in the early Church era were not clergy, which is to say, they had not received Holy Orders. They functioned mainly in catechizing and baptizing women and children, since in many social contexts it was unacceptable for an unrelated male to visit women in their homes, nor to baptize them, since baptism was done naked, by immersion.

So today's pseudo-deaconesses are not interested in involvement on the model of the deaconesses of late Roman Christian antiquity. They could serve as sisters or nuns or monastics or women religious in active apostolates. but they are not interested in that. either.

That's because they are not interested in serving, per se. They are interested in acquiring status: the status of clerics. What attracts them, what they demand, is precisely the worst aspect of clericalism: title, prestige and power.

22 posted on 07/31/2018 1:02:26 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Genius is of small use to a woman who does not know how to do her hair." - Edith Wharton)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

We may be in agreement.

I was adresssing people’s relationship with the Church. The modern Church today is viewed as a set of people who make political rules and have power. People think you can protest and lobby.

The Church is supposed to be the Body of Christ; all the rules these women rebel against are supposed to be bound up in Scripture and long-accepted tradition, and of course may by discussed with reason and faith, and may be explored and re-interpreted, but without need to directly act against. In fact, one risks damnation for doing so, because it’s the pinnacle of pride.


28 posted on 07/31/2018 5:52:56 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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