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To: ravenwolf; Luircin
And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness. That is the way it would seem if this one scripture is all we read. 1 Cor 1532 Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.”if we just read part of it it appears that Paul is telling us to just live it up but if we read the rest of it we can see there is a little more to it.. “What do I gain if, humanly speaking, I fought with beasts at Ephesus? If the dead are not raised,” If the dead are not raised then we just as well eat drink and be merry. “””Which is largely a strawman as directed to Bible Christians,””” It may be to you but it is not to me. Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you. For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. ..

You are guilty of arguing a false dichotomy, that either faith being counted for righteousness means one can believe and hold to "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die," or that one is justified before God/accepted in the Beloved due to his holy level of living.

But which simply ignores the the plethora of posts which define what saving faith is, which effects obedience by the Spirit and its characteristic holy living, and penitent repentance when convicted of not doing so. And thus Abraham believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness is true, and means what it says, but the faith of Abraham was one which went so far as to be willing to offer Isaac as a sacrifice

. But that this was not when Abraham was counted righteous, but it justified Abraham as being a believer, versus the faith without works belief which James counters.

Thus faith being counted it to him for righteousness does not mean let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die, nor do the merit of works themselves obtain a right standing before God, but the effectual heart-faith behind them do, purifying the heart in conversion, and rendering one accepted in the Beloeved, on Hi account. Thanks be to God.

But as you seem unwilling to understanding what I have patiently explained to you, and instead respond with this non-sense, then why should I continue to do so? Bye.

419 posted on 08/03/2018 6:10:41 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212; Luircin

Because it really sounds like you’re saying that daniel1212 has told you that no, this is not what he believes, and you’ve just said “I don’t care; I’m going to keep on attacking in this manner anyways.”


Talk about nonsense? i don`t think i even mentioned daniel1212 which world are you in?


460 posted on 08/06/2018 9:39:29 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
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