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To: imardmd1

Breaking of marriage vows is breaking of marriage vows, no matter what someone decides to call it.

And I have not been in any christian church that would sanction such a move by any couple, even if they claim they never meant to keep their marriage vows in the first place.

Then again, good, thorough pre-marital counseling should weed out such.


210 posted on 07/31/2018 9:09:11 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom; nobamanomore
And I have not been in any christian church that would sanction such a move by any couple, even if they claim they never meant to keep their marriage vows in the first place.

But, MM, you must admit that there are many non-Catholic Christ-professing ministers that will marry couples of which one or both partners have been divorced. In most cases the outstanding excuse is that the one divorced was the one offended by an extramarital copulation of their previous partner, hence giving them a reason for obtaining a decree of divorce.

They then lean on the "exclusion clause" found in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9 as reading that they then have the Biblical excuse for divorcing because of adultery, following that later they are completely and doctrinally free to remarry. Many ministers not only agree but supply such a wrong excuse. And some non-Catholic ministers do not even take this demurring stance on the matter. They just make sure that both have a valid divorce from man's point of view, then go ahead and remarry the two, claiming that God will bless the union, especialy if they will become "good church members" (which they cannot, since they continue as examples of ongoing sin).

Then there is the case where some couple have finally realized that they are going against Biblical principles through the counseling of another informed Christian or wise pastor. So there they are, truly saved and really married and truly repentant for their status. But then if they get the idea that they can both confess their sin, have it forgiven by God according to their understanding of John 1:9, be thoroughly cleansed (right to this point) . . . and then just go merrily along their way continuing cohabiting in marriage, they are yet still wrong, and reinitiating something they were forbidden by Christ to continue! And even then some of the careful Biblicists will say "OK" when it is NOT. The only solution Scripturally possible is for them to remain faithful in supporting each other, but to cease cohabiting or copulating. And if there are children, to support them in every way necessary for their development.

And the sum of these misadventures in the non-Catholic sphere is just what nobamacare is complaining about.

No Catholic priest will perform a church-sanctioned marriage if one of the couple (let alone both!) has a divorce decree from man's courts. And nobamacare is right, though a bit overboard, on the point he/she was trying to make.

Which is one reason why I took the time to use the reply to you to write out the long explanation. The other reason is, of course, to help others to avoid some of the excruciating pain that it has taken me to find out the truth of it.

212 posted on 07/31/2018 10:03:50 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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