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Biblical inconsistency?
OSV.com ^ | 07-25-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 07/28/2018 8:00:05 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Elsie; metmom; boatbums
You'll NEED that Free Pass outta Purgatory; since you've landed on the HALFWAY number.

Dan Brown might claim it's a SIGN!

I don’t know what other Catholics were taught, but I was told by the priests at my church, that if I went to mass for 9 first Fridays and 5 first Saturdays, that I would get a soul released from Purgatory. I felt such great power and pride.
I just want to know what happened to Limbo? I heard about it in the past, but did someone just decide the place no longer exists? What happened to all the people in Limbo. Where did they go? 😁 Inquiring minds want to know.

381 posted on 08/03/2018 7:35:50 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Really?

Bizarre!


382 posted on 08/03/2018 7:42:15 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: editor-surveyor

The Truth is not in you.


385 posted on 08/03/2018 9:47:38 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom; kosciusko51

Please bear with me, for I am truly trying to understand your position.

Are you saying that we need not be saddened by our sin? That we should not have any regret or remorse over our doing what in not pleasing to God?

Or are you saying that we love God and hate the sin that we do, and because God knows that is what is in our heart, we do not need to outwardly express our remorse to remain right with Him?

Or is it some other thing?


386 posted on 08/03/2018 9:49:25 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Elsie

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>> “Golly; then what DID they consider them to be??” <<

Obviously they considered them to be teachings and requests for actions.

Can you show us where they considered them anything else?

Mostly the letters documented the keeping of the Appointed Times by the apostles and their sheep, and in the case of the Corinthians, chastisement for their deeply sinful behavior.

The letters we read were other people’s mail!
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391 posted on 08/03/2018 10:09:22 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: rwa265
Are you saying that we need not be saddened by our sin? That we should not have any regret or remorse over our doing what in not pleasing to God?

No, not at all.

When we are saved, when we turn TO Christ for salvation, it includes confession of sin and repentance. That is the fruit of the work of the Holy Spirit in us.

A legal transaction takes place where we are pardoned aka forgiven of our sins and the righteousness of Christ, His perfect, holy life is credited to my account.

Colossians 2:13-15 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.

God's wrath and punishment for sin was poured out on Christ at the cross. Since my sin, the record of my sin debt to God, was nailed to the cross, when God dealt with sin there, it took care of that record of sin debt. It was paid for at that time.

Jesus said, *It is finished* which meant that the sin was fully atoned for.

Now when God sees us/ deals with us, He can do it as if we were as righteous as Jesus Christ Himself because not only was my sin paid for, but Christ's righteous life was credited to my account.

2 Corinthians 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Essentially what one is doing when they trust Christ is throwing themselves on the mercy of the court and not trying to do any part of it themselves.

So judicially, I have been declared sin free and now am in right relationship with God again, having been restored through the forgiveness secured at the cross.

Or are you saying that we love God and hate the sin that we do, and because God knows that is what is in our heart, we do not need to outwardly express our remorse to remain right with Him?

On the contrary, those who have been born again/born from above, now have the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in them and when they sin, they are convicted of that sin and struggle with it.

I do not know any mature, genuine Christians who are NOT grieved by their sin.

Or is it some other thing?

Yes, something else.

What I'm talking about has nothing to do with the feeling but rather the judicial standing before God. That is a fact attested to by Scripture, feelings aside.

The feelings come later.

393 posted on 08/03/2018 10:31:33 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: editor-surveyor; Elsie
When I do you just demand the links anyway.

Why not?

You must have a source for your information somewhere.

Why not share it with the rest of us so we can read it for ourselves instead of filtering for us and expecting us to take the word of an anonymous internet poster as truth?

394 posted on 08/03/2018 10:34:19 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: editor-surveyor

Why are you reacting so violently AND hatefully to every post that disagrees with you? Jesus Christ is definitely not your role model.


395 posted on 08/03/2018 10:59:27 AM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: metmom

Jesus said, *It is finished* which meant that the sin was fully atoned for.

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That’s why Jesus rose from the dead. All the sin of all the world was laid upon him and paid for through him and atoned for in Jesus’ death.

And we know that it is paid for because Jesus rose again. If it were not paid for, Jesus would still be dead.


396 posted on 08/03/2018 11:33:30 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: boatbums

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Exactly what are you falsely calling violent?

I’m trying to introduce you to the real Word of Yehova.


397 posted on 08/03/2018 11:47:17 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: metmom

Thank you for your explanation.


399 posted on 08/03/2018 12:02:00 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: Luircin
That’s why Jesus rose from the dead. All the sin of all the world was laid upon him and paid for through him and atoned for in Jesus’ death.

And we know that it is paid for because Jesus rose again. If it were not paid for, Jesus would still be dead.

Exactly. Since the sin was paid for in full, it could not hold Him. It no longer had any power to do so, and the resurrection is PROOF of that.

400 posted on 08/03/2018 12:35:13 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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