Posted on 07/22/2018 2:24:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The Washington Post asked locals at a southern Baptist church in Alabama why they voted for President Donald Trump despite that the former reality TV stars conduct. Their answer was short and to the point.
Members of the First Baptist church of Luverne, Alabama say former Secretary of State Hillary Clintons campaign for president was a no-go for them, according to a report Saturday from WaPo.
She hates me, Terry Drew, a member of the church, said of Clinton, who lost Alabama by almost 700,000 votes.
She has contempt for people like me, and Clay, and people who love God and believe in the Second Amendment. I think if she had her way it would be a dangerous country for the likes of me, he said, referring to people like the churchs pastor, Clay Crum. Trump has demonstrated a willingness to hang tough with Christians, Drew said.
Drew weighed Trumps character with what he thought is Clintons willingness to destroy his way of life. The choice was clear, he told WaPo reporters, who attended one of Crums sermons to get a lay of the land. Trumps going to stick to me, while Clinton will look the other way, Drew added.
I hate it, he acknowledged. My wife and I talk about it all the time. We rationalize the immoral things away. We dont like it, but we look at the alternative, and think it could be worse than this.
Other members of the church shared similar sentiment.
Jan Carter, another parishioner, said supporting Trump was the only moral thing to do.
You can say righteously I do not support him because of his moral character but you are washing your hands of what is happening in this country, she said, adding that America is slipping toward a civil war on our shores.
Crum, for his part, said supporting Trump is not easy, especially when the president does not demonstrate a keen understanding of Biblical law.
There are times when Christians have to stand up, he said.
Trump is an immoral person doing what Crum considers moral: nominating conservative judges and pushing anti-abortion policies. The presidents victory over Clinton convinced Crum and other members of something else, too. It encouraged them that we do still have some political power in this country, said Crum.
Recent polls suggest that Crums sentiment is prevalent in other states that tilted heavily toward Trump.
More than 6o percent of South Carolina Republicans said Trump was moral in a Winthop University poll conducted in April. Only 51 percent of evangelicals said that term was somewhat inaccurate in describing the president.
The fact that fewer than half of evangelicals overall would describe Trump as godly or moral suggests that his strength with these groups comes not from modeling pious behavior, but from them viewing him as a bulwark against a culture that they feel is increasingly hostile to them, Winthrop Poll director Scott Huffmon said in the poll.
Like deciding not to have an abortion this time because they like the guy.
“What choice did they have (at least post-nomination)? Hills a commie.”
Plus, she’s as pro-abortion as a person can be.
The Wikileaks emails by her campaign manager derided both Catholics and Evangelicals, i.e., Catholics are bad, but at least they’re not as bad as Evangelicals.
“Drew” in the article is correct: “She hates us.”
“An immoral person does not do moral things.”
Immoral people have done, and do, moral things. And moral people do immoral things.
An interesting quote I’ve thought about for years is: “The last temptation is the greatest treason: to do the right deed for the wrong reason.” (T. S. Eliot) I’m not sure what it means — the “last temptation” part, but it’s something to think about about.
>>Like deciding not to have an abortion this time because they like the guy.
Its even more subtle, like deciding not to have the abortion because they “believe” that it’s wrong, based on current conditions.
“People of faith know they are electing people to run a secular government.”
As long as the President adheres strictly to the Constitution as written, and appoints judges that do the same, we can feel confident that everything will work out. Once the left begins taking away our freedoms, we’re in trouble. “People of faith” understand that.
I think he meant “the last temptation” in his individual life.
Personally, I think that it’s right to do the right thing, regardless of your motivation. Maybe the “right thing” isn’t obvious, though.
Becket’s case is ambiguous. He had many choices along the way to his death that would have presented a different set of possible outcomes. His trajectory was guided by his “reasons,” right or wrong, long before the final point.
It IS genius. Fireman = Trump. Arsonist = Hillary. Easy for anyone to figure out.
“What would be so wrong with having a candidate that isnt a serial adulterer for once?”
Jimmy Carter would be your ideal candidate, then?
(Last week in church our preacher said the two worst presidents in his lifetime were Jimmy Carter and ... wait for it ... Richard Nixon! Our eyes bugged out. Um... no mention of Obama? We’re considering changing churches. Who needs a stupid preacher?)
I’d prefer that the Washington Post NOT get it regarding Evangelicals, as once they get it, they can start to work on breaking that bond with Trump. But too late now. It took nearly 2 years, but they finally sent someone to one of those DESPISED states (Alabama, in this case) to find out, once and for all, what the deal is.
Although what the people were saying was accurate, it is much more than having a president who hates you, it is having a president who wants to RULE OVER YOU, and force you to change to what she demands you be. That’s why they cannot simply retreat to their pews and ignore the outside world. Hillary will COME FOR THEM - in the case of these people, they will take control of the churches in many ways and make them vassals of the state. You Evangelicals WILL NOT be left alone, no f’ing way.
In Houston, our former lesbian mayor, Parker, actually SUBPOENAED the sermons of local churches to make sure they weren’t preaching ‘hate’. She was a step ahead of the rest of the left, but that is EXACTLY where they would have gone under Hillary.
http://abc13.com/news/pastors-sue-mayor-over-sermons-subpoenaed/900044/
As to the First Amendment, please SPARE ME. It would have been HILLARY’S SUPREME COURT in judgement of whether that was violated.
Again, something to think about, when we try to figure out ways to forgive NeverTrumpers who now want a piece of the Trump action - sorry, NO DICE!
President Trump is the most Godly man I’ve ever seen in the White House. I don’t know what these people are talking about.
So only men like Jimmy Cater don’t commit Adultery? Have we have fallen that far?
I don’t think that’s true in every case. Biblically David and Paul did some severely immoral things, but they eventually repented -— after they were pushed hard!!-— and God found each of them, under the circumstances, the right man for the job.
I've always thought the same thing. It wasn't the emails. She lost because this one remark that "let the cat out of the bag" regarding her character and her contempt for middle America. The day after the election a German friend of mine and called to ask how Trump won. I told him about her "basket of deplorables" speech and said that, although there were many reasons, it was that remark that put Trump over the top.
Sounds like Brutha Crum might believe he has achieved sinless perfection. I’ve been saved since Aug. 18, 1962 and I haven’t reached it. I have a Savior. And so does The Donald. He got saved at Billy Graham’s 95th birtday party. Praise Jesus. He’s a baby Christian. Cut him a little slack.
Amen to “New Creature in Christ”. Check out my general reply #54.
Blessings on your week.
It is possible to have a person who does not adhere to your notions of proper sexual morality, but who still is a good person to have on your side of the fight.
That sounds like a book that I’d find fascinating. I’ll pick up a copy.
I can’t say I’ve seen anything in his life since the time he started campaigning that I have a problem with.
And for those who have issues with his life from 40 years ago, how many of us could stand up under that kind of scrutiny?
So he’s been married a couple times before?
Big deal.
Remember when Bill Clinton was in office raping and sodomizing women and the media’s and left’s response was, *What he does in his personal life has no bearing on his ability to be a good president*?
Funny how the tables are turned.
Jesus Himself wouldn’t be good enough for the left. Matter of fact, it was the political/religious leaders that had Him set up and crucified.
Indeed, there’s nothing new under the sun.
Yeah, this is another way the comPost is trying to make Christians look dumb.
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