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To: Luircin

Your comment: “Has Rome started teaching that by grace you are saved through faith and not by works, so that no man may boast?

No? They pay lip service to the direct words of the Apostle while still teaching the exact opposite?”

You make false statements without any documentation or understanding of Catholic teaching.

Why don’t you look it up in the Catholic Catechism? It is free online through the US Bishops website.


34 posted on 07/14/2018 11:19:50 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

I’ve read the Catholic catechism, especially on justification. I’m simply much less accepting of what it claims than you are, and far snarkier about what contradicts Scripture. I’m happy to agree with what it gets right, which is a lot, but what it gets right never comes up on these threads.

But the Catholic catechism on justification remains the exact opposite of what Paul wrote, despite the lip service (you get the start through grace and have to work for the rest? Really?), and changes the definition of grace halfway through anyways, claiming it’s something you have to work to get instead of a free gift.

My turn. Have you read the Lutheran Confessions? Specifically, what do we teach about good works? Because you seem to claim that we’re antinomian.


37 posted on 07/14/2018 11:30:30 AM PDT by Luircin
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