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To: Luircin

Your question: “Did you have to get so defensive?”

How is it defensive to ask simple questions that you do not answer and then degrade the teaching of Jesus and His Church?

Christ told us we would suffer defending His Church.

Apparently, you can not find the sources in the Bible where Christ established His sacraments. As opposed to providing them to you, perhaps you should carefully look them up and then you can disagree.

So you feel that “the words are pretty darn simple to understand too”, then why are there so many different protestant churches and different interpretations of the Word and the teachings of Jesus?

For example, John 6, many do not accept or believe that the Eucharist is the Body and Blood of Christ and necessary for our salvation.

Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. 57Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.b 58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.” 59These things he said while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.

Are some really Christians if they pick and choose what teachings of Jesus that they accept or believe? Are many similar to the Pharisees? The Pharisees are portrayed as a negative example for his disciples, and his condemnation of those who claim to belong to him while disobeying his word is no less severe (Mt 7:21–23, 26–27).


18 posted on 07/14/2018 7:21:03 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM
.....”Are some really Christians if they pick and choose what teachings of Jesus that they accept or believe?”.....

Salvation is not about ‘teachings’....it's about the ‘finished work’ of Christ on behalf of the believer. If it were based on teachings none of us could even possibly be guiltless....for all have sinned and fallen ‘short’ of the glory of God...there are none righteous except for the an Christ Jesus. It is His sacrifice death burial and Resurrection which saves us....not ours.

21 posted on 07/14/2018 8:18:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: ADSUM

Oh come ON.

I tried to write a response that we both could agree on.

YOU had to start turning it into another Protestant-bashing spree.

But if you insist, here’s my reply. #triggerwarning

Unless Rome starts obeying the Apostle Paul and starts teaching salvation by grace through faith and not by works, Roman Catholicism is a devilish mockery of the true Christian faith.

All the differences between Protestant denominations are as nothing compared to Rome’s eager embrace of the literally satanic lie that you can save yourself through your works.

And until Rome stops preaching that filth, there is NO argument that you can make that Rome is ANY kind of church, much less the so-called one true anything, and ALL your arguments are nothing more than shallow sophistry.


22 posted on 07/14/2018 9:31:58 AM PDT by Luircin
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