that it is absolutely necessary for salvation
that every human creature
be subject to the Roman Pontiff.
Posted on 07/08/2018 10:03:40 AM PDT by Luircin
All the Words of Mary...
...as recorded in the Bible.
...To the angel
“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
Mary answered. “May it be to me as you have said.” (Luke 1:30-38)
...To Elizabeth
And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me—holy is his name. His mercy extends to those who fear him, from generation to generation. He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts. He has brought down rulers from their thrones but has lifted up the humble. He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty. He has helped his servant Israel, remembering to be merciful to Abraham and his descendants forever, even as he said to our fathers.” (Luke 1:46-55)
...To Jesus
His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.” (Luke 2:48-50)
... at Cana
And when the wine gave out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.”
His mother said to the servants, “Whatever He says to you, do it” (John 2:3-5).
And remember Mary in the Book, when she withdrew from her family to an eastern place. And she veiled herself from them. Then We [God] sent unto her Our Spirit [the angel Gabriel], and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. She said, "I seek refuge from thee in the Compassionate [i.e., God], if you are reverent!" He said, "I am but a messenger of thy Lord, to bestow upon thee a pure boy."
She said, "How shall I have a boy when no man has touched me, nor have I been unchaste?" He said, "Thus shall it be. Thy Lord says, ‘It is easy for Me.’" And [it is thus] that We might make him a sign unto mankind, and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter decreed.
So she conceived him and withdrew with him to a place far off. And the pangs of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date palm. She said, "Would that I had died before this and was a thing forgotten, utterly forgotten!" So he called out to her from below her, "Grieve not! Thy Lord has placed a rivulet beneath thee. And shake toward thyself the trunk of the date palm; fresh, ripe dates shall fall upon thee. So eat and drink and cool thine eye. And if thou seest any human being, say, ‘Verily I have vowed a fast unto the Compassionate, so I shall not speak this day to any man.’"
Then she came with him [the infant Jesus] unto her people, carrying him. They said, "O Mary! Thou hast brought an amazing thing! O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not an evil man, nor was thy mother unchaste." Then she pointed to him [Jesus]. They said, "How shall we speak to one who is yet a child in the cradle?"
He [Jesus] said, "Truly I am a servant of God. He has given me the Book and made me a prophet. He has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I live, and [has made me] dutiful toward my mother. And He has not made me domineering, wretched. Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I am raised alive!"
Well; neither of them are the BIBLE's Mary.
But; you asked for differences between each other; right?
I suppose that if one REALLY wants to know the ‘difference’, they could begin the search in various places; but evidence that even Catholics do NOT agree on certain things is abundant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Rosary
In any way similar to dog years?
Please.
Post it in the open forum so that LURKERS can see from whence thou comest.
And First Party quotes from JESUS seem not to; either.
CAll no man father.
(I think you mean faze.)
Homophones can trip us up at times.
I'm getting tired of your false accusations.
…Mel Gibson!!!
HMMMmmm…
You seem pretty bold to me.
You seem to have a LOT of veiled references to something; but I can’t quite figure out to what.
Sorry folks; but the text was NOT this size in preview!
I will try to answer them one by one. From one protester of Rome to another..
Q- you actually contending that Catholicism has NO true doctrines within it today? None???
A-Rome and ,hence Roman Catbolicsm, has created another Jesus and another gospel from their false doctrines. A false Christ.
A counterfeit.
So, they have no true doctrines because they have a false Christ. They don’t start with Truth so they don’t end with Truth. That have counterfeited Truth and call it Truth.
That was found, not with hidden knowledge, but testing what Rome teaches, with His Word.
I use antichrist like the first protesters of Rome did 500 years ago. They thought that for a reason but it appears 500 years later, that’s been watered down by new and improved protesters of Rome.
They are a vessel to deceive, not point to Truth. Antichrist doesn’t just mean opposed, it also means instead of, or substitute for.
And they don’t just affect their own, it affects the whole world.
Antichrist Rome peddling a false Christ. An instead of Christ or a substitute Christ- What is the harm of that? says one protester of Rome to another
If Rome has a false Christ that scripture show is false, is that not evidence of demon possessed swine work?
Who is a more subtle worker of deceit than Satan,the father of lies?
You certainly don’t have to accept that premise, but with testing and proving all things, the 2000 swine years fits in my journey and none of us should feel real good about what has happened with the corrupting,or the leavening in the Kingdom.
You-q
To assert that the first 2000 years of Christianity were all “swine years”, “demon possessed” or “antichrist years” means that NOBODY has ever believed the truth?
No, Paul taught another Jesus and another gospel than what Rome teaches.
That was changed. However, corruption in the Kingdom of heaven on earth did begin soon after Christ left.
I am not sure I discussed this with you, but the current priesthood through Judah that comes from our High Priest, was always going to have a period of Light (Christ) and then a break (breach- Christ leaves) and Light returning (Christ)
That was shown to us through the birth of twins that Judah had with Tamar. That story can tell us a lot about His plan and how a breach of about 2000 years isn’t impossible to believe.
A breach was always going to happen in the priesthood through Judah, and since Light has not returned, the breach continues.
This time period was ordained for His purposes and according to His Will.
And it was hinted at in the scriptures. That’s not hidden knowledge,but it is hidden manna His people can consume.
Will antichrist Judaism explain this? No and neither can antichrist Rome. Neither have the Truth.
Truth has been changed to confirm Rome’s false truth.
And about 2000 years later, Rome still reigns and the Light has not returned.
Q-Did Jesus and His disciples totally fail in passing on the faith?
No. But even He chose the 12 and one was a devil. Satan entering Judas is a picture of Satan having a legal right to meddle in the church.
From the very start, Satan has had a legal right to corrupt the church ,like Satan had a legal right to kill man for 6000 years. Christ came earlier than the demons expected but it was for His purposes and his plan.
So, if one can accept that Christ chose a devil as part of His 12, which He himself confirms, demons in the church from the start isn’t a stretch.
It was a part of His plan. Not our plan, but His.
Q- Jesus’ prayer that we all may be one in the faith come back with a flat NO for an answer?
A-2000 years after His resurrection and The church has divided itself into thousands of sects, denominations, faiths.
Maybe all those are one in faith but the faith is in inherited lies from the father of lies, who has had a legal right to a position of authority as one of the 12.
Satan being allowed to corrupt the church isn’t a nice thought.
It’s rather humbling to think Satan has a legal right to a position within His Kingdom but, the church is a restoration of the garden of Eden in one level.
I would say it like this, if the garden is spiritually restores, but the tree of life is not present here, but tree are people being led to eat?
Can not the church be seen as both good and evil?
That ties in very nicely to the breach that the priesthood and Kingdom of heaven on Earth would experience. A time where the only tree available to eat from is Satan’s tree.
Now, that’s maybe getting a little deep but again,He has a plan and Satan’s time corrupting the Kingdom is coming to an end. Satan’s lies and falsehoods in the church aren’t harmless.
They have created another Jesus and another gospel from what the first disciples knew and taught.
And the whole world tends to follow antichrist Rome. Even antichrist Islam and antichrist Judaism.
All people of faith have Satan deceiving them today. It is written that it was going to happen.
Many are waiting for it to happen,not understanding it happens this very day.
And they don’t know how Satan deceives them.
May they be besses with eyes to see and ears to hear,how Satan isn’t waiting to deceive. Satan deceives the whole world now. Just like Revelation 12 explains.
And the users manual I used is the same you have. And yet, as protesters of Rome, we aren’t very close.
I have been led further certainly. But it isn’t because I am not deceived by Satan. I had it revealed how saan deceived me, and I had a choice to stop being deceived.
Most aren’t there yet.
Its a journey to Truth and growth in His Truth.
I see where antichrist Rome has counterfeited Truth.
Most of the protesters of Rome, it appears, haven’t reached that point yet.
But we all will because that too, is a part of His plan.
For His purposes and for His Gloty!
Is this a worship on Saturday thing?
Aren’t ad hominem attacks wonderful?
I just remind myself that Peter the Apostle was mocked for being drunk on Pentecost, though of course he wasn’t.
It’s a common excuse for enemies of the Body of Christ.
You don't know very much about me at all so how is it you can state you "have been led further certainly"? You are long on criticism and quite short on specifics. I sense a great deal of spiritual pride and, from your use of some phrases, I suspect you follow people like Michael Rood. I'll save you some time...I have no interest in buying his books or tapes or watching his YouTube videos.
Perhaps he isn't who you follow but apparently you imagine you have attained a higher level of hidden knowledge and think this makes you superior in your practice of faith. I disagree. I hope your journey of faith leads you to the truth - I really do. I don't think you have gotten there yet. As for me, I repeat, I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him until that day.
And I used to think he was SO handsome!
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