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To: Mrs. Don-o

The creative nature of violence is the thesis.

My intent is to contrast this with the RCC’s consistent stance against most any war or violent law enforcement, including the border issues.


24 posted on 07/06/2018 10:27:47 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude

Maybe it’s a PINO problem rather than a RCC problem.


25 posted on 07/06/2018 10:29:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: fwdude
Catholic doctrine recognizes that immigration must be lawful (and thus enforcing law at the border is legitimate), and recognizes, as well, the just use of force by soldiers:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a4.htm#2241

2241 "Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."

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http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a5.htm#2310

2310 Public authorities, in this case, have the right and duty to impose on citizens the obligations necessary for national defense.

Those who are sworn to serve their country in the armed forces are servants of the security and freedom of nations. If they carry out their duty honorably, they truly contribute to the common good of the nation and the maintenance of peace.

Clearly, the doctrines of the Church strongly favor non-violent (political, economic, diplomatic) means over violent ones, and peacemaking over warmaking. However, law enforcement and national defense are never anathematized; to the contrary, they are recognized as contributing to the common good.

Note the ongoing problem we have with clergy ignoring the Catechism. Or, to put it another way, Catholic leadership being out of line with Catholic law.

26 posted on 07/06/2018 10:59:42 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In theory, there's no difference between theory & practice. But in practice, there is." Yogi Berra)
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