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What If Pope Francis Isn’t Catholic? (A Protestant reflection)
The Gospel Coalition ^ | 03-20-2018 | Collin Hansen

Posted on 05/20/2018 12:47:05 PM PDT by NRx

In her Nobel Prize-winning book Secondhand Time: The Last of the Soviets, Svetlana Alexievich interviews scores of Russians who lament the loss of the Soviet Empire, even as they recount its horrors in excruciating detail. The Soviet Empire may have been barbaric, but at least they were great! The world feared them! They had defeated Hitler! (No thanks to the British and Americans.)

Several unapologetic Soviets complain they lost their beloved empire without a shot. Why didn’t blood flow in the streets in her defense? They blame Mikhail Gorbachev. As one Soviet observes, the Communist system could withstand any challenge from below. It could suppress any revolution. Except one. What if the party’s leader was no longer a true believer? What if Gorbachev betrayed the cause from within the Kremlin, from the very top, where no one could stop him?

Ross Douthat ponders an analogous takeover within the Vatican in his new book, To Change the Church: Pope Francis and the Future of Catholicism. What if Pope Francis isn’t Catholic? What if he aims to overturn centuries of dogma? What if he plans to stack the College of Cardinals with liberal allies who will ensure his revolution can’t soon be reversed? What if he banishes his conservative critics to the church’s periphery? Who, then, will enforce the teaching on sexuality and marriage preserved against Western cultural trends by the late Pope John Paul II and self-titled Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI? Indeed, how can the vicar of Christ so confidently dismiss the words of Christ on marriage and adultery from the Gospels?

(Excerpt) Read more at thegospelcoalition.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: popefrancis
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To: ealgeone
Sorry, but the dude is a Roman Catholic through and through.

You are wrong here. His bookAmoris contains heresy. Teachings that go against infallible teachings of the Church. He is a heretic.

21 posted on 05/20/2018 2:08:41 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: gaijin

It was the mercy of God that gave us JPII.


22 posted on 05/20/2018 2:15:18 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: FatherofFive

Who are you to judge? Are you in RCC leadership??


23 posted on 05/20/2018 2:19:56 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Secret Agent Man; NRx
He sure the hell isnt LC-MS.

Are you sure about that?

The Pope Commemorates The Reformation That Split Western Christianity

24 posted on 05/20/2018 2:49:05 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone; FatherofFive
Who are you to judge?

Who are you to tell Catholics which heretics we "have" to obey?

25 posted on 05/20/2018 2:51:23 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NRx

Well, even if he isn’t Catholic, probably he still S**TS in the woods when the need arises.


26 posted on 05/20/2018 2:55:37 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: ealgeone
Who are you to judge? Are you in RCC leadership??

Do yourself a favor and read the Dubia.

27 posted on 05/20/2018 3:18:11 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: ebb tide

Unam Sanctam tells you RCs have to. You have no choice in the matter.


28 posted on 05/20/2018 3:30:07 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Jorge Bergoglio, the heretic, was born long after Unam Sanctam.


29 posted on 05/20/2018 3:34:45 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NRx

Does this mean I can no longer use the Question “Is the Pope Catholic?” when responding to an obvious point of discussion?

Great, now I have to ask, “Are 40% of Democrats Socialists?”.


30 posted on 05/20/2018 3:38:09 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Commie is a dead Commie. Cast your Vote Accordingly.)
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To: txnativegop

Funny that there’s a documentary out worshipping this guy and the leftist reviewers who hate Christians are praising it and him.


31 posted on 05/20/2018 3:40:31 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: ealgeone
Unam Sanctam's first sentence tells you:

Urged by faith, we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins, as the Spouse in the Canticles [Sgs 6:8] proclaims: ‘One is my dove, my perfect one.

32 posted on 05/20/2018 4:02:22 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Jorge Bergoglio, the heretic, was born long after Unam Sanctam.

You are saying a dogmatic statement of one pope doesn't apply to another pope??

33 posted on 05/20/2018 4:04:20 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide
You may recall that I am not a Roman Catholic.

I am a Christian...a follower of Christ.

There is a difference.

I believe John 5:24.....do you?

24“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

34 posted on 05/20/2018 4:06:14 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
You may recall that I am not a Roman Catholic.

Doesn't matter; neither is Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

35 posted on 05/20/2018 4:08:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NRx

I thought most people knew he was a communist.


36 posted on 05/20/2018 4:09:36 PM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: dhs12345

Nah bears are still faithful and true.


37 posted on 05/20/2018 4:21:00 PM PDT by xp38
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To: NRx

It’s pretty bad when even the non-Catholics are asking this question.


38 posted on 05/20/2018 4:25:25 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: ebb tide

No LC-MS member wants to have false unity with the Roman church.

Note I say a specific conservative denomination. NOT A FRIGGING LIBERAL one that thinks its a grand idea.


39 posted on 05/20/2018 4:41:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Note I say a specific conservative denomination. NOT A FRIGGING LIBERAL one that thinks its a grand idea.

In my opinion, Martin Luther was a frigging liberal.

40 posted on 05/20/2018 5:11:50 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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