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To: Mrs. Don-o

I will summarize one more time.

You have made an assertion.

You have not backed it up with God’s Scriptures.

You’ve been forced to claim natural law, history, personal assertions, etc.

You have misused one passage of Scripture.

You have provided nothing else.

No commands from God.

Certainly no command to have limitless children.

Nothing in God’s writings to the church.

If you want to adhere to this personal belief, of course you can. I’ve no complaints about personal preference or practice.

But you are claiming this is a universal, moral, important rule, applicable to all Christians - and presumably all Jews.

Yet God didn’t say it or teach it or command it.


140 posted on 05/16/2018 7:31:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Paul said it best in his letter to the Corinthinians. He is 100% accurate on this.

1 Corinthians 2 New International Version (NIV)

2 And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God.[a] 2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. 4 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5 so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.

God’s Wisdom Revealed by the Spirit

6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 However, as it is written:

“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”[b]—
the things God has prepared for those who love him—

10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.[c] 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for,

“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”[d]

But we have the mind of Christ.

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Jesus shared knowledge with His disciples and asked them not to share it with others. The “knowledge” is very powerful, even more powerful than the greatest human weapons.

Our ability to comprehend and know this knowledge is based upon our level of spiritual development. This is to protect us and others from being harmed by exercising our free will if our souls are not pure.

Through being one with Christ, I am aware of the detailed contents of the souls of people around me. I know their sins as they are physical to my perceptions. Just as Jesus knew the thoughts of people around him. Remember what Jesus said, (John 14 & 15)

John 14

10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

John 15

If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

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Let those who have ears hear and those who have eyes see.


142 posted on 05/17/2018 3:51:56 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I didn't think much of your argument that "It's taught by the Catholic Church, so it must be wrong."

I hoped you wouldn't go further and say "This teaching was accepted by all Christians of all denominations for ages, so it must be wrong."

I was sort of hoping for actual reflection on Christian experience Christian discernment, and/or Natural Law --- Natural Law, correctly considered, applies to everyone but it does take some careful thinking through, which we could do together --- but I was disappointed.

I hoped for too much.

145 posted on 05/17/2018 6:28:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Everything should be made a simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein)
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