Posted on 05/07/2018 10:43:15 AM PDT by ebb tide
I just don’t think you can explain stuff away, with technical interpretations of what the Bible says, when you can just do what Jesus said.
I don’t think he needed a lawyer or press secretary to explain what he meant.
“Do this in memory of Me” - is very simple.
I don’t see any exceptions in that statemen. And I don’t think you can find any by searching for them through interpretations of other passages of the Bible.
So, “Do this in memory” of Jesus in your own home with wonder bread, if you like- or would that be somehow prohibited? And by who?
And getting mad and hurling invective at me is not very Christian.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that about his name.
What I think is sad is people who act holier than thou by reciting stuff like “If someone does not believe in this true Eucharistic Realism, then that person, if he receives, is proclaiming a unity of belief which he actually do not have.” and looking down on others who don’t think they have the ultimate answers from God, that only they seem to have discerned.
Once again... From the top... Jesus said “Do this in memory of me”... Do you see any “but only if...” in that statement?
Don't you think the whole of the NT is the doctrine of Christ? Including what Paul taught about Communion?
How right you are.
It's not the only thing he said, but it's the last thing he said.
Paul is giving the reason for the Lord's Supper which he had received from the Lord.....you proclaim the Lord's death until He comes.
This is consistent with the other passages regarding the Lord's Supper...."do this in memory of Me."
In none of the passages we have on the Lord's Supper does He say one must physical eat and drink His flesh and blood for salvation.
Hence, why I said context was key to understanding this issue.
23For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 1 Cor 11:23-26 NASB
Who says it's "very simple"? You? How do you know?
Does it matter whom He was speaking to? Was the command given to everyone or just to the people he was with? How do you know?
What does "do this in memory of me" mean in the context of a Passover ritual observance? Is "do this in memory of me" even an accurate translation of the Greek (answer: not very)?
so if you choose to do that in your own home with a slice of wonder bread and a glass of red wine it doesn’t count?
"This is consistent with the other passages regarding the Lord's Supper...."do this in memory of Me."
Thank you. These are very good re-statements of Catholic doctrine.
If you agree with this you’re signaling you agree with the entire post. Glad you agree Rome’s position is wrong on this. We’re making progress.
For you to say I "signaled" that I "agreed" with parts of your post which diverge from Catholicism, shows a willingness to tell falsehoods which is unbecoming in a Christian.
One could only deduce you were in agreement with the texts and subsequent explanation of the texts. That’s the reason why context is key to understanding the Word. Something lost in Roman Catholicism.
You lie about me. I won’t put up with that.
You had me until you define the church as the Roman Catholic sect. My denomination professes the real presence of Christ’s body and blood in His supper. When inviting folks to the communion rail this is emphasized and those who do not share the belief are asked to refrain. It is a serious thing to share communion with any group. I would not commune at the Roman altar out of respect for you as well as not wishing to join in what I feel are unbiblical beliefs. I would think you would offer my denomination the same respect. That does not make me less a member of the Church. Church does not equal Roman Catholic.
That's not just Mrs Don-o's opinion. That is what the Catholic Catechism, basing itself on Scripture, says about it.
I have always said that; I have always recognized Protestants, Evangelicals, and other non-Catholics as Brothers and Sisters in Christ.
If you did not know that before, you know it now.
You say: "I would not commune at the Roman altar out of respect for you as well as not wishing to join in what I feel are unbiblical beliefs. I would think you would offer my denomination the same respect."
There we agree.
Thank you for the clarification. I also recognize anyone who has trusted Christ alone for their salvation and have been baptized into the Christian church as a brother or sister and I am sorry I misinterpreted your post. We will disagree over doctrine but we can voice our confidence in our salvation in Christ together
The point is no where in the passage in question can you find Rome’s understanding of the Lord’s Supper. Hence the reason context is key to understanding the text.
You are in disagreement with a good majority of your fellow RCs on these threads and much of Roman Catholicism based on this post.
But I don't care to engage with you further. You tell falsehoods, shamelessly and without apology.
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