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Not at all. I am simply looking for some common ground that we can all agree on. If we get up to the precepts were doing pretty good wouldn't you say?

But, what is the point? We already know that Evangelicals and Roman Catholics agree on many of the major tenets of the Christian faith. I have a good idea that you are also familiar with those where we disagree. Should we not better spend our time discussing those or is that pointless to you?

I personally have never been taught that anyone is saved by works but you have to take my word for it and I have just been called a liar and "an insulting servant of deceit" so you'll have to take that with a grain of salt.

I guess I will have to also take it with a grain of salt that you have "never been taught that anyone is saved by works" since I used to be a Roman Catholic and I know that is not true - but I won't call you a liar (I won't "make it personal).

Answer me this if you will...why do you think when I read John 10:27-30 I knew immediately that I had NOT been told the true gospel growing up as a Roman Catholic? Here is the passage:

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.

That verse in the Greek is so powerful. It rules out the chance of the believer losing their salvation.

The point, at least for me is that we be as one, as our Dear Lord and Savior prayed we would be as He and the Father are one, unified against our one true enemy, the Devil, FIRST and bickering siblings SECOND if at all.

To your beautiful and comforting passage from John. Does our gentle Lord force us to open the door upon which He knocks? And if we are free to open that door or leave it closed, are we not ourselves also free to shut it closed on Him again.

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