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To: Ambrosia
There is difference between “Gift of Tongues’, which must have an ‘Interpretation of Tongues’, and is for the CHURCH BODY...AND the prayer language of tongues, which is private prayer of the Holy Spirit (See Ephesians CH 6), to use ‘when we do not know how to pray as we ought’...it is HS praying thru us a perfect prayer for a situation.

Romans 8:26-27 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

This is one of the most commonly misused verses to support the nonsense that passes for praying in tongues.

Scripture does NOT mention it any other time than once when Paul mentions himself doing it.

There is no reference as to what it is and how it is the be done.

And those verse say that the Spirit intercedes with groans TOO DEEP FOR WORDS TO EXPRESS.

Presuming that the gift of tongues is an actual language, that verse actually precludes it.

If the groanings are too deep for words, and tongues is words, then the groaning of the Holy Spirit cannot be uttered even in a *tongue*.

66 posted on 03/21/2018 5:24:50 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

That interpretation is “Wrong”. Intercessors are called to a deeper prayer in the Spirit as explained by that reference to groaning and weeping, and is the HS praying through that individual to accomplish his purpose... Miracles have come from that type of prayer.

I referenced not Romans but Ephesians 6: “Praying in the Spirit is praying in tongues.” See below:

Ephesians 6:18 18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the LORD’s people.

I read a book in 1980s called “Nine O’clock in Morning’ by Episcopal? Priest: Dennis Bennett. It can still be bought, and his experience is priceless/biblical.

I will NOT argue about Scripture, as one can pray asking the HS to “teach them the deep things of God”- See below:

John 14:26 26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

ALSO, Jesus said in Luke 11:11
11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? 12Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? UNQUOTE
At the time Jesus was casting out spirit for man who could not speak...’ONE OF NINE GIFTS of the Spirit’

All Christians are equal in God’s eyes, whether they are filled with Holy Spirit w Speaking in tongues, and gifts of the Holy Spirit or NOT. All that is required is to believe in Jesus/be Baptized. We go to Heaven by Grace, not Works!

I’ve been an Intecessor/Prayer Warrior for 37 years (God got me young), and witnessed miracles unprecedented. There is nothing that could convince me the POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT doesn’t do, what scripture says HE will do! Charismatics in Catholic Church, Pentecostals in Protestant, Church of God, Assemblies of God, or whatever denomination have the same Holy Spirit and Gifts operating in their meetings.

Thanks for comment, prayers UP!


80 posted on 03/21/2018 6:04:13 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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