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How Billy Graham Avoided Scandal His Entire Life
Charisma News ^ | 3/1/2018 | J. Lee Grady

Posted on 03/05/2018 6:41:26 PM PST by metmom

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To: metmom
"God Himself doesn't force others to do what he wants."

What about Pharaoh? Or Jonah?

61 posted on 03/06/2018 5:58:38 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Non context You refuses to answer the question because the answer will embarrass you.

And what about the millions of unbaptized aborted babies?

Just a little scripture reading shows that all little children held a special place in Jesus’ heart.


62 posted on 03/06/2018 6:11:49 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: metmom

And our Veep; from Indiana; has a similar plan in place.
He; too; gets raked over the coals for it by Liberals.


63 posted on 03/06/2018 6:23:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

He DID?

Got any proof?


64 posted on 03/06/2018 6:25:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sparklite2
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65 posted on 03/06/2018 6:28:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Yaelle

Or a PURE one.


66 posted on 03/06/2018 6:29:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pbear8
It’s a good thing many of us know history too well to believe your stories.

Likewise...


It’s a good thing many of us know the Book that Rome produced too well to believe the later stories She came up with.

67 posted on 03/06/2018 6:31:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

I know, I appreciate you and your posts, mm...

As I recall, Grady did the Gamaliel dance with the NAR, along with other formerly solid charismatic preacher Jack Hayford.

(They presumptiously thought they were so lofty, they could play Gamaliel’s “wait and see” game with the false prophets and immoral fruit of the NAR, when we are all instructed to beware false prophets and oppose such ravening wolves. They will come to account before the Lord for the slaughtered faith of the people.)


68 posted on 03/06/2018 6:31:25 AM PST by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
I DO BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS AT THE BAPTISM OF AN INFANT, particularly if the parents are Christians and teach their children Christian Truths from childhood. We cannot fully understand the miracles of God, but I BELIEVE THAT A MIRACLE CAN HAPPEN IN THESE CHILDREN SO THAT THEY ARE REGENERATED, THAT IS, MADE CHRISTIAN, THROUGH INFANT BAPTISM. If you want to call that baptismal regeneration, that’s all right with me”
 
How many weasel words will it take?

69 posted on 03/06/2018 6:37:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Note that Graham was careful to say this was what he believed and he gave careful qualifications. He did not teach it as scripture. Unlike you, Graham realized the gift God gave us in the freedom to think. Without it we are lost and unable to truly love and accept the gospel voluntarily. Basically we would become robotic Pharisees who, unless they open their eyes, will never see the beauty of the forest through the trees. Sound familiar?


70 posted on 03/06/2018 6:45:09 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: bramps; Bodleian_Girl; metmom; Elsie; Yaelle

Dave Hunt Exposes Billy Graham

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvp-rS30hg


71 posted on 03/06/2018 7:13:02 AM PST by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

Don’t have 20 minutes to listen to this guy. Please give us the facts that he states. And back them up with links that prove them to be true. Since you’re so willing to dance on a man’s grave, I’m sure you’re willing to spend the time to backup whatever claims are ‘exposed’.


72 posted on 03/06/2018 7:30:33 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Kartographer; Elsie; metmom; bramps

When David’s newborn son with Bathsheba died, David said, He will not come again to me, but I shall go to him.”

Based on that scripture I’ve come to a personal conclusion that pre-born and newborn babies don’t go to Hell.

Based on scripture, that’s what I think.

But would I foolishly claim, like Billy Graham has, that infant baptism is salvational? No, I wouldn’t.

I also think it was wrong of him to accept the vain Catholic tradition of salvation by works.

“In an interview with McCall’s Magazine, Graham said: I’ve found that my beliefs are essentially the same as those of orthodox Roman Catholics ... we differ on some matters of later church tradition” (McCalls, January 1978).”


73 posted on 03/06/2018 7:30:46 AM PST by Bodleian_Girl (Always great to dethrone a false idol)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

But would I foolishly claim, like Billy Graham has, that infant baptism is salvational? No, I wouldn’t.
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Please cite where Graham says that infant baptism IS salvational or shut up.


74 posted on 03/06/2018 7:42:44 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: bramps

Wait, you don’t know who Dave Hunt is?

(I mean, you doubt that The Berean Call has all of what Hunt is saying here completely documented? LOL)


75 posted on 03/06/2018 7:48:04 AM PST by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: bramps

I DO BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS AT THE BAPTISM OF AN INFANT, particularly if the parents are Christians and teach their children Christian Truths from childhood. We cannot fully understand the miracles of God, but I BELIEVE THAT A MIRACLE CAN HAPPEN IN THESE CHILDREN SO THAT THEY ARE REGENERATED, THAT IS, MADE CHRISTIAN, THROUGH INFANT BAPTISM. If you want to call that baptismal regeneration, that’s all right with me.”

~Billy Graham


76 posted on 03/06/2018 8:15:48 AM PST by Bodleian_Girl (Always great to dethrone a false idol)
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

Snark is one thing.

Profanity is another.


77 posted on 03/06/2018 8:47:38 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Bodleian_Girl; bramps
*something happens* is not the same as *Infant baptism saves people.*

He's probably basing it on this Scripture.

1 Corinthians 7:14 For the Christian wife brings holiness to her marriage, and the Christian husband brings holiness to his marriage. Otherwise, your children would not be holy, but now they are holy.

If he's saying it saves the babies, he was wrong, but that does not fit with the message he preached of salvation by faith in Christ and the need to repent and confess and turn towards Christ.

78 posted on 03/06/2018 8:54:53 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

You absolutely need a lesson in reading comprehension. You stated that Billy Graham said that infant baptism is salvational. That is an objective statement and something that he did not say. He made a subjective statement that was his opinion clearly based on his life experiences and scriptural interpretation. Giant difference and absolutely one that needs to be emphasized, especially when one is accusing someone of heresy.

Earlier you also implied that Billy Graham had cheated on his wife. Which you also will have no citation for and absolutely need to be called out on. If I were you I would look deep into my soul to see what my problem actually is with this wonderful man that allows you to play so loose with words in an attempt to destroy a great man’s reputation.


79 posted on 03/06/2018 9:04:13 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: bramps; metmom; Elsie

I have no idea if he was ever unfaithful to his wife.

But if he were unfaithful, I’d give him a pass for that. He was a man who spent a lot of time away from his spouse. Men have physical needs. That’s just a fact of life. To me, that’s crazy that he did spend so much time away from her, but what’s done is done.

Not going to give him a pass however for his insane belief in infant baptism. Or his staunch support for other false teachings of Catholicism.


80 posted on 03/06/2018 9:48:26 AM PST by Bodleian_Girl (Always great to dethrone a false idol)
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