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To: HapaxLegamenon

“Prima Sedes a nemine judicatur.”

I thought this was interesting:

https://novusordowatch.org/2016/03/impossibility-judging-deposing-true-pope/

There is a difference between judging the pope and judging whether a given individual *is* the pope.

If I’m not mistaken, the pope has to be Catholic. If Francis claimed to be a Catholic and for whatever reason is not, is he the pope? Was he ever the pope?


22 posted on 02/09/2018 11:38:30 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

The problem is who determines this? The Church is a perfect society. This means she has the sufficient means to reach her end. The members have subordinating hierarchical roles. Who decides definitively that one is not a member? It would seem competent authority as in any society. Pope Pius XII is very clear on this in his encyclical on the Mystical Body of Christ.

This does not mean that if you or I became pope that we couldn’t as our first act declare him excommunicated. It just simply means we are not competent to declare him excommunicated as a juridical punishment or to declare in the name of the Church that he has excommunicated himself as a point of law.

Superior est judicatur.


28 posted on 02/09/2018 12:07:47 PM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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