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To: ebb tide
Pope F.’s canonization of PaulVI will be because Paul exhibited heroic virtue, which is not dependent on theological accuracy.

However, PaulVI was totally faithful to the Church's theology and teaching in Humanae Vitae.

There is no room for change in the core teachings of HV including the teaching that some acts( use of artificial means of contraception) are intrinsically evil. One might add as an aside so are adultery and murder and the rest of the Ten intrinsically evil..

Situation ethics were condemned by the Church long ago and over and over. Why these guys think o.k. to contradict such historical teachings is yet to be answered.

5 posted on 02/08/2018 11:51:01 AM PST by amihow
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To: amihow
Pope F.’s canonization of PaulVI will be because Paul exhibited heroic virtue, which is not dependent on theological accuracy.

I recommend you read this book, Paul VI beatified?, before there's more talk of his "heroic virtue".

Do you realize that every deceased pope since John XXIII convened his bastard council will be canonized, with the exception of John Paul I, who was only pope for 33 days before he died mysteriously?

And guess what? Pope John Paul I Moves Forward on Path to Sainthood

I recommend any Catholic review the complete list of all popes and who of them have been canonized, prior to the Second Vatican Council, compared to today's saint factory.

The List of Popes

In the 390 years prior to the Second Vatican Council, only two popes have been canonized, Popes St. Pius V and St.Pius X. And both of them are the antithesis to the post-conciliar popes.

7 posted on 02/08/2018 12:57:30 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: amihow

Respectfully, that’s actually less than correct. More accurately, Humane Vitae was a head fake by Pope Paul VI. Yes, it professed the true teachings if the Church, but did so with a wink and a nod.

It would be surprising to find if even one priest in any Catholic Church in the world who advised their congregations that practicing artificial birth control was a mortal sin after Humanae Vitae. Or for that matter, it would be equally surprising if a priest ever suggested that artificial birth control should be a matter that married Catholic couples should give any concern.

It would appear to me that Pope Paul VI’s approach was to allow the media and his synod on the topic to all but convince society that article birth control was soon going to become a done deal. Then, surprisingly, he issued an encyclical that held fast to Catholic teaching––but then never said another word to anyone about the encyclical. Consequently, his bishops and priests remained silent as well. Today virtually all modern Catholics belief that is the teaching of the Church notwithstanding Humane Vitae. So any action that Pope Francis may take in the coming months will change nothing.

But in light of Pope Francis’ planned Canonization of the man, he has to first clear up that thorny issue about the encyclical, and that’s what this is all about. Both of these Modernists embrace the exact same goal of allowing and even encouraging the human population to destroy itself, they just have different approaches because of the circumstances and the times.


11 posted on 02/08/2018 4:14:31 PM PST by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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