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To: pastorbillrandles; metmom; EliRoom8; daniel1212; Mark17; Elsie
Jordan Peterson is not a teacher sent by God to expound on the Gospel, once and for all delivered, He doesn’t believe in it’a historicity, therefore in a tue biblical sense, he doesn’t believe at all!

Yes. Good, insightful post. You quote Paul, as he is mentoring Timothy regarding the leadership, polity, and deportment of the church at Ephesus, noting that eventually the main person of influence was sliding into apostasy (Rev. 2:4) even though Timothy had been one of the Pauline mentors of its elders.

Paul's first canonical epistle to Timothy is all about godliness--that is, deportment--of the church and of its constituents. Godliness is the manifestation of a mystery unperceived in pre-Christian times, but now revealed at the time God opened the gates of access to Him through the Blood of Christ (1 Tim. 3:16).

The two prominent facets of godliness are manifested in orthodoxy (conforming to established doctrine), and piety (devoutness).

In chapter 4, Paul sums up for Timothy all that he has taught him, and it is from this that we can begin to categorize both aspects, as Timothy would have indoctrinated the Ephesian church.

What has happened to us today is a slide bit by bit from the orthodoxy of the first churches (Acts 2:42) and piety (Acts 2:43), first into unorthodox Romanism and Byzantine practices that became a redefined orthodoxy, that of the statist church, the religious organ of the emperor/king; and subsequently through the ages until now, until we have experienced such a plethora of unorthodoxy that it has become standard, and the Way of The Cross has been lost.

What you describe of Jordan Peterson is just another outbreak of irregularity that would not have been tolerated for centuries, but in the last fifty years now is. But applying Paul's counsel to Timothy in this instance, with the rule--the measuring stick--being the Bible alone and the behavior of the apostles and churches described in it (Php. 3:16-19), we see that one should not be yoked with this philosophizer who cannot be exercising spiritual discernment, and to walk away from his kind of thinking, for it is contaminating whatever it touches and influences (2 Cor. 6:14-7:1). Touch not the unclean thing(s): Gods, idols, archetypes, atavars, movie stars, Allahs-who-have-no-sons, Andrew Carnegies, etc. They are illusions that produce delusions. But they are sly edgewise approachers, apparently like this Jordan Peterson.

This is a time of soul-warning, Pastor, that goes beyond soul-winning; and thank you for sounding the klaxon on this!

"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come" (2Ti_3:1 AV).
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,
giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; . . . " (1 Tim 4:1-2 AV)
". . . Having a form of godliness(orthodoxy and piety), but denying the power thereof:
from such turn away" (2Ti 3:5 AV).

Preach/post it, Brother! Amen! (Especially about the unorthodoxy that has become the current standard in the present concept of "orthodoxy" throughout Christendom.)

39 posted on 02/06/2018 2:16:31 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
What has happened to us today is a slide bit by bit from the orthodoxy of the first churches (Acts 2:42) and piety (Acts 2:43), first into unorthodox Romanism and Byzantine practices that became a redefined orthodoxy, that of the statist church, the religious organ of the emperor/king; and subsequently through the ages until now, until we have experienced such a plethora of unorthodoxy that it has become standard, and the Way of The Cross has been lost.

A matter of degrees and not totally lost but a eloquent elucidation nonetheless. I thinkthe pastor will appreciate it which i do.

49 posted on 02/06/2018 3:13:36 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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