Posted on 01/27/2018 6:52:30 AM PST by tiredofallofit
Okay, so there is more than just one problem with the KJV Only movement. I know that. But having grown up in a KJV only church, there is one major problem that sticks out to me above the rest. It is not just a major problem; it is an insurmountable problem. And it drives me crazy.
If the King James Version, which is a 1611 English translation of the Bible, is truly the only infallible, inerrant, and inspired Word of God, then what about the billions of people who have lived and died and never understood a word of English? At this very moment, there are more than 6 billion people in the world who understand little or no English.
And lest we forget, it wasn’t until 1455 that the first Bible was printed (on the Gutenberg Press) and then much later into the 16th century before the Bible became affordable and widely available. These early Bibles were printed in Latin. This begs an important question. Did the Faithful over the centuries who either never had access to the Bible or had to read it in Latin go to hell because they never held the King James Version in their hands?
By claiming that the King James Version is God’s only chosen version, the KJV Only crowd is dismissing tens of centuries of Christendom and implying that the majority of the world populations today cannot know the truth of God’s word. Such a claim is arrogant and nonsensical. Most of these KJV types proclaim their adherence to “Sola Scriptura” yet nowhere in the King James Version does it tell us which version is the true one. Many of these same people also express their disdain for the”traditions of men” while at the same time swearing allegiance...
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Yes it does. I use the NASB though. I’ve gotten to listening to the OT in Hebrew. Not that I know what it means but I love hearing “Adonai” and the few words or names I know.
Question for everyone...I was wondering, when Jesus rules the world will Hebrew or Aramaic be the first language for everyone? Will we all speak one language like we did before the tower of Babel? What language was that?
KJV Onlyism has never made sense to me.
I like the kjv because that is what i got used to but i also like others like the douay rheims,
There are the ones printed in the late 20th century which i do not like because many of them was printed with a certain church doctrine in mind although they would never admit it.
So i agree with you but i guess the kj is my choice.
You're kidding. Rather arrogant assessment of the KJV and its translators.
I was a little off in the actual comment.
Did not mean to mislead.
Here is the post
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3564664/replies?c=22
If you are correct, then please provide a link to a KJV Only adherent claiming that eternal salvation requires the KJV Bible. If the groups you have spent time with are just as the author describes, then you should be able to do so.
The fact you have not done so, and the author did not do so either, tends to lend credence to the conclusion that I am correct.
But you might be able to prove me wrong.
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KJV Only is found more in the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches.
More preachers who use the KJV spend most of their time translating it to modern English. I prefer the New King James.
The rest of them are literally paraphrased softned copies of the KJV!
This can be easily shown by noting how many times they contain verbage copied from the italicised additions to the KJV, which are not found in any Greek MS.
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You mentioned that you studied the KJ Only group. Was this by attending their services or reading about them?
I’m away from my computer so I’ll send references when I return.
I agree.
Consider Luke 24:45.
Regardless that the apostles were undoubtedly well aware of the prophecies associated with the coming of the Messiah, and regardless that they witnessed Jesus fulfilling those prophecies, the Luke passage shows they didn’t connect Jesus with the fulfillment of those prophecies until Jesus opened their minds to the Scriptures after the fact.
Insights welcome.
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The only “errors” to be found in the KJV are the italicised additions.
Those italicised words are the basis of many of the grand lies that form basic “christian doctrine.”
Remove the italics from the KJV and you have the word of Yehova.
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Your post leaves me scratching my head!
The ESV is easily the most corrupt piece of garbage on the market. You really want a politically corrected Bible?
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Totally absurd strawman, but amusing nonetheless.
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>> “Can you link us to a statement by anyone who has said that a person has to read the Bible in order to receive eternal salvation?” <<
Good question in several ways.
Reading of the Bible is a recent luxury.
The apostles reccomendation in The Acts was that we “hear Moses read.”
Paul told the Romans that not hearers, but doers will be justified.
Yehova told the disciples “This is my son in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him!”
Nowhere in the word are we expected to actually read it.
General literacy is a fairly modern thing.
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And “The Scriptures” from which Jesus and his apostles taught didn’t contain one word of the “new testament.”
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I have personally encountered Christians who believe this kind of thing. They they that because the Catholic Church was the only Church on record until the 16th century, most people went to hell. Too bad for them but that’s just how it is. It’s not a strawman - it’s what people believe.
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I meant strawman in that the basic text of the KJV, without the italic additions, is a fairly direct literal translation of the received Greek and Hebrew texts.
Even the JPS English Tanakh reads almost exactly like the KJV.
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I have a real problem with the ESV. It is a sloppy translation. For example, 1 Thess 4:1-8 speaks of the command against sexual immorality. The ESV changes the word 'commandment' to 'instruction', thereby weakening it's impact. Jesus said if we loved him, to keep his commandments. One by one, liberals are hiding the commands of scripture by calling them other things.
Scripture interprets scripture. If the translation is sloppy, or worse, well, you know.
Mostly by reading a lot of their material. I also was in a home church that included a few adherents.
As I have researched this today, I have read from a number of critics that KJVO adherents have said and written that KJV is required for salvation, but none of them provided a link or even a quote from anyone. They made the claim, but did not provide documentation to back up the claim.
That’s what I have been asking for. So far, silence.
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